Connecticut assault victim gets 18 months in jail for stabbing attacker

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    I said it was one or the other. Zimmerman actually used the defense law to murder that kid.

    The kid's prior offenses do not give Zimmerman the right to be policeman, judge, jury, and executioner. The law should have taken care of Travyon's priors and it was.
     
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    No it can't. You stated it as a fact in this particular instance. The fact is you have no clue what the ruling would've been. Just because you could show a trend with stats proves nothing about this instance.

    Is your mind capable of understanding that?

    Try not to make such ridiculous statements. The struggles enough with credibility as it is.
     
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    On what planet is it murder when someone is on top of you beating the **** out of you?

    How do you make that leap?
     
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    I didn't want to throw mud because you appear well served.
     
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    It is unbelievable unless you realize that the incident was in a liberal state. In my state, you wouldn't even have gone to trial. Yet another example of liberalism, a system in which there is confusion about what bathroom to use.
     
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    This sounds like an alt-right comment Partizan1. I always thought you were a little bit to the left.
     
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    You made a ridiculous statement. I showed how ridiculous it was. You can't respond and so resort to attacks and condescending remarks. It's basically a carbon copy of any conversation with a lefty.

    Now, what will your next insult be given your inability to defend your original statement?
     
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    Uh he didn't murder anyone. Trayvon was a thug wannabe and burglar casing the neighborhood.
     
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    Northeast corridor. Don't truck there, don't visit there.
     
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    Self-defense: if somebody attacks me, I kill them. Automatic as a jungle survival school move.
     
  11. Max Rockatansky

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    Lethal self-defense is a homicide, but it isn't murder. Are you seriously claiming he intended to murder Martin that night?

    Correct. However, when that young gangsta is beating the crap out of him, Zimmerman has a right to defend himself. Yes, even with a pistol.
     
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    Unless a miracle happened young Trayvon was clearly on his way to becoming a full fledged gangster. Zimmerman may have even saved a few lives in the process.
     
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    Trayvon was definitely on a bad path. I don't know if it was because of his family situation, the lifestyles of his parents (divorced but mainly his mother as shown in link below), his neighborhood, friends, "gangsta culture" or all of the above, but that kid was definitely likely to end up a statistic....and he did.

    Sadly, the number one cause of death for black males aged 15-34 in the US is homicide. It's far down the list for white males in the same age groups...most of whom die from "accidents" (usually youthful stupidity) and suicide. After studying this for years, I think it's purely cultural, not genetic. Martin lived the culture of a "gangsta" and he died like one.

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    I agree completely. The gangster culture is just a subset of the liberal culture. Ever listen to their music? It will tell you everything you need to know.
     
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    Yea he looked like he was really grounded and pounded.

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    They must have ran him by the dry cleaners before they headed to the police station.


    Well he should have at least been charged with manslaughter, for the simple fact when someone is minding their business and doing nothing wrong and you take out chasing them and then use self defense to justify your actions that's bullshit. Not surprising though, it's not as if we haven't seen it before.
     
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    Glad I live in West VA.
     
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    I can't imagine that a jury would find him guilty of such an unjust application of law.

    I hope that there's more to the story.
     
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    Conn is one of the states losing population most rapidly as folk with brains or assets flee to America.
     
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    Personally, I wouldn't mind if he had grabbed a gun and shot all three dead.
     
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    I left there in 1966 and came to Virginia and they asked me to calm down as they didn't act like that in Virginia.
     
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    No it is not legally murder but morally it is murder. Zimmerman is responsible for the chain of events that led to the confrontation that then led to the death of the kid. The kid was not committing a crime, he was walking back to his father's house. He was stopped by the wannabe sheriff and Zimmerman initiated and triggered the confrontation. Zimmerman as self appointed watch guy should have just reported the kid and then let real cops determine if the kid was breaking the law.
     
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    The jury agreed it was self-defense. They know more about the case than you and me put together.
     
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    Not morally murder either, but you are free to think so. Do you think Marissa Alexander was morally justified in leaving the house, getting a gun out of her car and then going back in to shoot at a man with kids nearby? Do you think the OP "victim" was justified to chase after the asshats who beat him and stab one with a knife then call it self-defense?
     
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    Me neither, but it would have to be done as they were beating him. He can't chase after them and execute them in the street.

    Remember Bernhard Goetz (1984)? He was justified in what he did and ****ing New York still put him in prison then let a criminal sue him for $43M. Best to live in a state that allows citizens the right to defend themselves and doesn't coddle criminals.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shooting#Civil_trial
    The jury found that Goetz had acted recklessly and had deliberately inflicted emotional distress on Cabey. Jurors stated that Goetz shooting Cabey twice was a key factor in their decision.[71] The jury awarded Cabey $43 million – $18 million for pain and suffering and $25 million in punitive damages.[71]
     
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    A jury full of democrats? ;)
     
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