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  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good going, Australia. <sarcasm>
    Got Spontaneity? Less likely now.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/new...res-partners-must-say-yes-loud-135901576.html

    New Australian law requires that all partners
    must say 'yes' – out loud

    The nuances of sexual consent have been on the table recently thanks to the #MeToo movement, and one state in Australia is trying to clarify what consent should actually look like.


    The new law states, in effect, that if you want to have sex you must ask for it clearly, and then hear a verbal “yes” back, under new reforms announced by the New South Wales (NSW) government in Australia, the New York Post reports.


    The state, which is on the east coast of Australia (Sydney is its capital), has placed sexual consent at the core of a strategy to battle sexual assault after a high-profile rape case seemed to show that the existing laws did not protect victims.


    A man named Luke Lazarus was acquitted of rape after a five-year criminal legal battle, despite a jury and two judges finding the woman, then 18, had not consented to sex with him behind his father’s nightclub in 2013. While the jury found the woman had not consented, the legal issue was if Lazarus knew she was not consenting. Both conditions are required to prosecute successfully under the current laws.


    To keep it legal with no future dispute,
    Why doesn't the gov't issue Sexual Consent Contracts for both to sign.
    They should probably specify a "safe word" indicating the contract is canceled.
    With choice of a perpetual contract is understood until canceled or one for each encounter.

    Good Going Australia. <sarcasm, again> :rolleyes:
    Hope the three, straight, Alpha Males that remain rise up in protest.


    Moi :oldman:




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  2. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if law also applies to Islamic marriages between adult Muslim men and under age pubescent children? LOL
     
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  3. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Writing as an :flagus: :salute:
    I imagine the minor/child cannot give a consent
    and the parents' consent is all that is important. :D
     
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    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Islamic Sharia Law has been given approval and permission to be practised along with current USA and Australian Laws. Under Islamic Sharia law, parents of pubescent girls give consent and permission for their underage children to marry and have sexual relationships with adult Muslim men. Therefore, if the child's parents give consent, then the child is also giving consent by being under the parents care and supervision? This law seems very strange to me, because its advocating that children are being forced into agreeing to be sexually assaulted under Islamic Sharia Law.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe Sweden just wrestled with the same problem and ruled
    in favor of the Muslims.​
    Coming soon to the Enlightened West, acceptance of Muslim "honor killing".
    No your honor. Not intoxication nor insanity. A matter of honor. <case dismissed>


    Ain't multiculturalism wonderful? NOT!

    It does not seem unreasonable that immigrants / refugees adopt the morality of their host nation.
    After all, they are free to chose to go to a nation that better matches their morality.
    And "our law" is "the same law for all". Now compromised by multiculturalism. Si?


    Some National types should set up a fund for one way flight tickets with contract never to return.
    Y'think?



    Moi :oldman:



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    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    Please allow me to get the definition of this new Australian law correct for my own sanity. We all know that Islamic Sharia Law is being practised in Australia by Muslims with the approval and consent of the Australian Government. Therefore, under the identification and meaning of the new "YES" law reforms by the New South Wales Government, any underage pubescent child bride married under Islamic Sharia law who advocates "yes" to having sex - out loud with an adult Muslim man is no longer protected from child sexual abuse or acts of paedophilia under Australian Law?

    I knew Australia had turned into a cesspool, but this leaves me lost for words.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't ask me.
    I'm not Australian.
    Nor am I :flagcanada:
    I am :flagus: born :salute:
    And just feel sorry for them white, English speaking peoples who will never quite grasp, FREEDOM
    like good :flagus:.


    Moi :oldman:


    Australians are further hampered by toilets that flush with a wrong way swirling.
    And they will never know better without traveling north of the equator.
    Some say they get around this draw back with a non swirling toilet.



    Try make it to 2:04 :)
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Freedom! Hahaha!
     
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    Wow - just wow.
     
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    I remember when I went to the US a friend and I was talking. He said "They have funny toilets over there they are filled to the top with water, and when I sit down it hangs down and my god the water is cold."

    I said "Yes I know, and it's deep too!"
     
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    Oh and FYI, the water rotates the same direction, it is the point from which we are observing it that is different. It's all relative.
     
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    Im not sure that your reading of the law is accurate. According to my sources, Sharia law applies unless the local law overrides it.

    You are aware that the case of Luke Lazarus was when he anally raped a drunk girl outside a nightclub? She was drunk and unable to give consent as she was under duress at the time.
     
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    What's the truth got to do with it?
     
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    Anyone with a teaspoon of morals would hope and expect the Law of the Land to physically and psychologically protect an innocent child from being sexually exploited by the predatory behaviour of adult Muslim men under the protection Islamic Sharia law. However, this link reveals that Islamic Sharia law is being practised within Australia and is being allowed to overriding Australia law with the consent and approval of the Australian Government. Therefore, it begs the question: will this new "yes" - out loud law introduced by the NSW Government apply to pubescent underage children married under Islamic Sharia Law which is being officially sanctioned and practised within Australia? https://au.news.yahoo.com/law-of-the-land-is-sharia-law-operating-in-our-suburbs-31440296.html
     
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    So what are you suggesting - taped recordings of every sexual encounter, because people also have the right to say "no" or "stop" while they are doing the act? :eyepopping: Even think that people should take some personal responsibility and accountability for themselves and not to get so drunk and have anal sex with strangers?
     
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    Don't be so sanctimonious!
     
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    Having the intellectual ability to distinguish facts and truth from fantasy - is not being sanctimonious.
     
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    You are the one having trouble with the truth.
    The girl was raped by an opportunistic scumbag.
     
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    I don’t have any intellectual problem distinguishing truth from fantasy, but it would seems some people do. Unless you have become the soul arbitrator of the Australian legal and justice system, then my understanding is that Luke Lazarus was acquitted of the rape charge.

    Maybe there is lesson in this that all Australian women can learn - you can enjoy yourself having a few glasses of wine without resorting to being a drunken vulgar woman who wants a dick up the bum-hole.

    I think in this instance, the Court got the decision correct. This individual was videotaped drinking large quantities of alcohol before she went out, and one could reasonably deduce she went out with the intentions to meet a male and have sex. I don't know any responsible adults who get drunk at home and then go out to a venue thinking they are going to meet Mr. right. LOL

    This is such a sad story that happens too frequently when adult women become so drunk they lose all responsibility and accountability for their own actions, and resort to being cry babies and witch hunters when they realise they have done the wrong thing.

    In this case, the humiliation and embarrassment of agreeing to anal sex and then being pointed out as a “Slapper” afterwards, forced this woman into falsely accusing a man of a rape that never occurred.
     
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    Taking the opportunity to prey on someone who put herself in a very vulnerable state and location.

    We cannot ignore personal responsibility. The Darwin Awards exposes people who get themselves killed taking stupid risks (some of which are the effects of violence and crime), and no one is bothered by this 'victim blaming'. The cases currently across our media of young women being preyed upon while walking the streets alone, at night are no different.

    That men can be scumbags is another conversation entirely.
     
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    :eek:
     
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    So, who is at fault? The victim or the rapist? David Lyenhjelm seemed to have a problem with this too.
    Are the predators to be excused because they saw prey? Why should women expect to be raped?
     
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    It has to come back to personal responsibility for your own actions when you consume alcohol. What happens in a sexual situation when both people have the same amount of alcohol and both drunk?

    We all know the lessons from our own childhoods, smart kids survived, and dumb kids didn't. Why are we all of sudden turning dumb people into victims because they refuse to be responsible and accountable for themselves?
     
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    Ps. The girl was a virgin before this. the boy skited about having had a virgin after this."In a text message to a friend the afternoon after the attack, Lazarus said: "I honestly have zero recollection of calling you ... Was a sick night – took a chick's virginity"
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...for-at-least-three-years-20150327-1m91up.html
     
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