Should anyone food service or restaurants with tattoos be required to pass Hepatitis tests?

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Should those working food service or restaurants with tattoos be required to pass hepatitis tests?

Poll closed Jul 29, 2018.
  1. To keep Hep-C from spreading, these employees should all have to pass hepatitis tests first.

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  2. No, having a tattoo does not mean you should have to pass hepatitis tests.

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  1. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

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    My comment to the other poster applies to your comment here as well.
     
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    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    Why would you think otherwise? No one has EVER paid for their own drug test its always paid for by the company so why would you think a test for hepatitis, HIV or being a ginger would be paid out of pocket?
     
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    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    No but her tattoo should probably be tested for "truth in advertising"
     
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    Because posters in this thread have stated as much.
     
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    If someone is stupid enough to become high risk to hepatitis over something as worthless and useless as a tattoo then what other choices do they make that are just as dangerous? If you don't have any sense in the first place then how much of everything else about you is also senseless? How much did you welcome a dog to come lick your face after he had eaten a pile of his own ****?
     
  6. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct. First you say employers then you jump to employees. Sure, employers try to maximize profit and some may try to stick their employees with the bill...but consider they may end up with no employees. Not good for business.

    As mentioned earlier these tests are much cheaper these days and would become even cheaper is required for all due to mass production. Have you seen how drug tests are freely available at many stores about $12? How shots are available at Walmart? You're concerned about the small cost, but are you concerned about public health?
     
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  7. DaveBN

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    This comment reeks of ignorance. Many people of all walks of life have tattoos. Teachers, doctors, lawyers. When I got my tattoo, first and likely only, I searched and did weeks of research on health practices and certifications as well as BBB ratings for prospective locations. Having a tattoo puts you at no more risk than simply being alive. I read the study that the op presented and peer review couldn’t corroborate their numbers.
    I mistook your post as claiming that employees should pay costs as the topic creator contends. Reading comprehension error on my part.

    I suppose low costs do in fact make it less of a barrier for universal testing. As long as no groups are singled out and companies bare the cost it’s probably fine. Thank you for presenting me with facts with which to update my outlook.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for the clarification.

    Agreed; no groups should be singled out. Universal testing of health and food service workers. Yes, managers and owners too.
     
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    You know, just when I think that the depths of dumb have already been plumbed I read a post like this:roll:

    Advice - Google "transmission of disease" BEFORE posting.

    Secondly it is Fox News and it is a prime example of the saying " Do not confuse good science with bad journalism "

    But from your link itself

    Although the study could not prove a direct cause and effect, "Tattooing in and of itself may pose a risk for this disease that can lay dormant for many, many years," Francois said.
     
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    Can no one manage to google "transmission of disease"?
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. Can you?

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    And yet another one

    Does no one in America know the difference between the letters A and C?

    https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/hepatitis-c

    Unless you waiter actively bleeds into your meal you are safe
     
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    https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/ConditionsAndTreatments/hepatitis-a

    There is a difference between Hep A and Hep C
     
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    Walmart is a great example. Its hard to find a company that treats its employees worse than Walmart and even they pay for drug screenings so why wouldn't they pay for drug testing.
     
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    The world doesn't revolve around their opinions. No company is going to require their employees to pay for blood tests.....ever. As I mentioned in another post even Walmart pays for their drug tests.
     
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    Yes and which Hepatitis is only transmitted through blood to blood contact? This is off topic simply because you, like everyone else on this thread did not bother to google the specific disease
     
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    Admit your dislike of people with tattoos, if only to yourself and consider how it might be unduly influencing your opinion on this specific issue?

    Measurable yes but the significance is in question. It’s questioned by experts in the very article you linked. There are other factors that would increase the risk too, some significantly more yet you’re not proposing mandatory tests for any of them.

    There is also the fact that give the total incidence of Hepatitis C is a small fraction of 1% of the population and the increased risk due to tattoos will add a fraction of that again. If you can justify testing on the basis of the relatively tiny increase, why can’t you justify testing on the basis of the entire risk?

    I think you’re grossly overselling the risk and “stupidity”. I’m not a huge fan of tattoos in general but as long as you use a reputable artist who follows all the standard safety and infection control measures, I see no reason for it to be especially risky.

    I’m not sure you understand the vector of disease transmission here. It’s has nothing to do with the ink being injected, it’s about previous customers blood remaining on multi-use and insufficiently cleaned equipment. It’s important to be clear if you’re going to assess the true scale of risk.
     
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    Ahh, so me mentioning Hep B is off topic but it's okay for you to mention Hep A? Fascinating. Is that the typical Aussie sense of fairness or just the Far Left sense?

    Earlier I mentioned testing of all food service and health employees for communicable diseases. For some reason you are against this. Why?
     
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    If you feel like taking a chance with something as lethal as hepatitis, then that's your choice. Me? If tat-wearers have a greater risk of having and spreading hepatitis than the rest of the population, I think they should be tested before they are allowed to work in a restaurant or in a grocery store handling unpackaged food. But, hey, it wasn't so very long ago in history that people didn't believe in the existence of germs at all!

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    There are so many things wrong with this post I'm not sure where to begin.

    Foodservice employees are not 'underpaid', they are paid commensurate with their experience.
    McDonalds restaurants are franchisee owned, which is separate from McDonalds corporate, as is most franchised restaurants. Most quick serve restaurants run a profit margin of below 10%.
    Just as it is the employee candidates responsibility to prove (by identification) that they are legally eligible to work in the United States, if such a test were to be required by law, it is not necessarily the employer's responsibility to pay for it. Do you ask a prospective sexual partner to pay for your STD test?) If a person will be driving on behalf of a company, the employer doesn't usually pay for the MVR report. There are certain things that you can 'take with you', ie would benefit you with any employer in the same field. If the employer pays for it, then they own the results, and if you change employers, you would have to go through it all over again. If the employee pays for it, they can use the results as part of their selling points to a new employer.

    A number of restaurants require the use of gloves in food handling, to reduce the possibility of contamination from a number of diseases or cross contamination. Personally, I don't care if someone has a tattoo or not, but I do feel more comfortable when they wear gloves as it covers a larger range of possibilities.
     
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    I think what the Aussie is trying to say is that catching Hep C from a food service worker would be rare. More likely to catch Hep A or B from them. IMO, all food service and health workers should be regularly tested for communicable diseases.

    FWIW, Hep C can be cured: https://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/features/hep-c-cure#1

    Hep A and Hep B not so much, but there are vaccines. I've had mine due to my line of work. They're a series of shots. I think it's mandatory for some lines of work like health care workers.

    https://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/hav/afaq.htm
     
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    I mentioned Hep A because it was obvious you and others were getting the modes of transmission confused
     
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    What part of blood borne transmission are you not understanding
     
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    Feel free to quote a single post where I got "the modes of transmission confused". If you can't or won't do it, will you either man up and apologize or retract your false accusation?

    IF, OTOH, can produce a statement where I got "the modes of transmission confused", I'll happily apologize and thank you for your correction. Fair enough?
     
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