"The North Koreans were just messing around, not serious about moving forward"

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's not looking good for the blowhard in North Korea so far.

    Pompeo's North Korea meeting went 'as badly as it could have gone'
    By Jamie Tarabay, CNN

    Updated 7:18 AM ET, Wed July 11, 2018

    (CNN)It began with great expectations, an eagerly-anticipated meeting with a reclusive leader, and a gift bag that included an Elton John CD.

    It ended with a scuttled rendezvous, statements declaring disappointment and stalemate.

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's overnight visit to Pyongyang last week failed to demonstrate any progress on denuclearization talks, leading one source with knowledge of the discussions to say the White House felt it went "as badly as it could have gone."

    "The North Koreans were just messing around, not serious about moving forward," the source told CNN's Michelle Kosinski, adding that Pompeo had been promised a meeting with North Korea's Kim Jong Un, and so not getting that meeting sent a big message.

    "By now it's abundantly clear that this approach is a dead end," said Adam Mount, a senior fellow and director of the Defense Posture Project at the Federation of American Scientists, where he covers US nuclear strategy, deterrence and North Korea.

    "The White House has essentially tried to shoot for the moon and total disarmament, and it's clear that North Korea is not only not willing to do that, but sees very little reason to take steps in that direction," he told CNN.

    ...

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/11/politics/pompeo-north-korea-intl/index.html
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Of course trump got played. He’s a slow witted game show host, wtf did you expect?
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    No, China merely proved North Korea is their bitch.

    China is pissed Trump wont allow them to rape America any more, so they instructed their puppet kim to halt any peace process.
     
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    No.. Trump doesn't listen.. He has no idea what Kim said in their meeting. Trump was anxious to leave and make a big splashy headline. The same thing will happen with Putin.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So in now we get to pay more for Chinese goods AND still have a nuclear North Korea?
    Thanks Trump!
     
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    I dont think they are serious at all because China controlls them.
     
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  7. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    So, Trump is shooting himself in the foot by fighting with the Chinese?
     
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  8. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yep. Trump is so far in over his head in this role, it's just tragic.
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    It is tragic, isn't it?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But but but ...

    "Everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office," said Trump. "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea."

    donald wouldn't lie to us, would he?
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    He never said he had a done deal with North Korea either Iriemon.

    Are you really denying the military and economic pressure he is putting down that Obama never had the guts to do is having no effect?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't claim he did.

    Well, he's kissed their NK ass, gave Un lots of prestige and propaganda fodder, legitimized their leader, and showed the world how ineffective our leadership is.

    What effect is it having?
     
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    Not quite. Putin will personally give Trump his new directives and then tell him to **** off until the next time he is summoned.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    You attacked his claim we are safer absolutely.

    When was the last nuke test Iriemon?

    Tell me, what did Obama do that actually had an impact on NK? I've love to see your evidence.
     
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    I think Trump is the only person in the world who thought attacking China at the time we need their help to be a good idea. Of course he had already gotten the $500 million loan so I guess he didn't need them personally.
     
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    Obama got China to approve sanctions.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I mocked his claim.

    Don't know. When did NK start dismantling its nuke weapons program?

    This thread has nothing to do with Obama. Try another diversion attempt.
     
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    And that's different how?

    There is no agreement to do so. The fact you don't realize no nuke testing is significant says it all.

    Its a comparison of different presidents using different tactics. You are attacking one president while giving your messiah a free pass that had no effect on NK.
     
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    "leading one source with knowledge of the discussions to say"


    Really?

    CNN anonymous source 2.jpg
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know. How? I wasn't crystal clear on what you were saying.

    If there was no agreement to dismantle NK's nuke program then it was pretty ****ing stupid for our president to say: "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea" wasn't it?

    Of just a flat out lie. Which would certainly fit with his character.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Try reading it then.

    Yes I wouldn't have said that. But its just as stupid to claim its had no effect when we have seen a ceasing of nuke testing and missile testing since pressure was racked up.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    So what, you're saying this didn't happen because the source was speaking anonymously? You know full well that CNN, Fox, you name it, all regularly rely on unnamed sources who wish to remain anonymous for obvious reasons.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    *You're* lecturing me about reading things?

    I did, and stand by my post.

    Where did I claim it had no effect? Quote and link please.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    LOL Yes I am. The very fact you think you are infallible after one exchange is amusing to say the least. And unlike you I can admit an error. :)

    Then allow me to acquaint yourself with your own words.

    You attacked his claim we are safer.

    Then you claimed you were "mocking" him.

    I asked how it was different then you pretended not to understand.

    Do you understand now? How is it different? Try not running this time.

    Oh so you are admitting it does have an effect even though you demanded evidence it was having an effect. LOL Do you need to sit down and think this through?
     
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    How are we safer now then we were before? NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!! duh...
     
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