Trump administration separated families. Reuniting them is a giant mess.

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Get ready for a LOONG time of observing rather than doing in politics. You will be crippled in 2018 and done in 2020 and we will likely never see your ilk again. You tipped your hand and let us know what we can expect if we ever let you into power again, so it will not happen.

    But we must VOTE, we have seen what awaits us if we don't.
     
  2. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

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    Did you get that from the same poll that elected Hillary Potus?
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Most of these people have gone to approved entry points, they have either been placed on very long waiting lists that get longer and longer or are just being turned away entirely. Our own law in regard to refugees says they can come over at any point and they should not be prosecuted if they surrender to authorities immediately, which they do. Sessions is violating his own law

    The procedure for getting refugee status has been posted several times so I'm not going to waste my time posting it again. You'll just make **** up that contradicts it. Like all Trumpistas your "facts" are "flexible"

    Trump and his lickspittles are violating our laws and going against everything this nation holds dear. If you ever had a relative who died to preserve this nation and its ideals you owe it to them as well as yourself to vote these people out in November of this year and 2020.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, Pew Research, which gives us 48% and you 44% . Nobody really knows about the Independents who decide all elections (that's sorta why they're called Independents)

    If all we Democrats vote we will most likely win and we can end this era of disgusting lickspittles fawning over an obnoxious tyrant whose only point of pride seems to be how nasty and cruel he can be to people who need help, that is why we MUST vote ALL of them out in November of this year and 2020..
     
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    And when you lose, will your head explode? Keep telling yourself that Alex. Just like you did in 16. I can't wait for the next liberal meltdown that will ensure you lose.
     
  6. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Trump separated small children from their parents without providing a way for them to EVER be reunited again.

    Obama did NOT DO THAT.

    Trump dragged children under the age of 5 before immigration court without their having representation - either from parents or from legal assistance in their cases.

    Obama did NOT do that.

    Trump deported children without their parents.

    Obama did NOT do that.

    Trump deported parents without their children.

    Obama did NOT do that.
     
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  7. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump created no law. sorry bub
     
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  8. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    You're confused.

    The issue here isn't one of law.

    Do your reading.
     
  9. Professor Peabody

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    What about the families the Obama administration separated?
     
  10. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    That's what you've got ...

    "Whataboutism"

    The thing here is that there are valid reasons for separating children from parents.

    But, Trump had NO VALID REASON for doing what he did - those acts stated above.

    And, he actually BRAGGED about it!

    Now, we have families that may well have PERMANENTLY lost their children without there being any justification for that.

    And, the idea of hauling young children before the court for high stakes cases without parents or other representation is just plain sickening.
     
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  11. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No Im not confused. We have executive judicial and legislative. Trump is the POTUS and therefore executive. You are factually wrong...unless of course The United States is now a dictatorship.
     
  12. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    And, the problem came from the POTUS - the executive.

    Seriously, I thought you knew Trump was POTUS.

    Sorry about that.
     
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  13. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nice try. we are a nation of law. If you dont like the laws then vote for dems who will change them.
    Sorry Trump didnt create the problem the criminals crossing our borders factually did.
     
  14. WillReadmore

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    Trump was withing the bounds of the law when he did what he did to more than 2000 families.

    However, the law did NOT require him to do what he did.

    The law didn't say that it is required that children be taken from families without there being any way for them to EVER be returned.

    The law didn't say that small children have to stand before the immigration courts without representation or even their parents.

    The law didn't say that minor children have to be deported to foreign countries WITHOUT their parents.

    The law didn't say that parents need to be deported without their minor children.


    I'm not sure what's got you so confused.

    You should do your reading before you pop off here.
     
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  15. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    to force you to understand how full of crap you are on this. Answer the following honestly and factually. When a U.S. citizen commits a crime and is detained by authorities do we allow their children to be detained with them under our law?
     
  16. WillReadmore

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    You're still just plain ignorant or in total denial of what happened here.

    The issue is with Trump policy, NOT THE LAW.

    You need to catch up. You are WAY in the weeds.
     
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    I answered that above.

    That has NOTHING AT ALL to do with dragging kids younger than FIVE before the immigration court without their parents or representation to answer questions related to asylum.

    It has NOTHING AT ALL to do with deporting kids and parents separately with no way of having them reunited.

    Somehow, you TOTALLY missed what this issue is about.
     
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  18. AlphaOmega

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    hahahhah ok. Suuuurrrrrrreeeee. What was the policy when Obama factually did the same thing?
     
  19. AlphaOmega

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    Answer the question. We are going to have you state whether trumps policy is the same, different or now worse for U.S. citizens who are detained. Dodge for me again...so I can win.
     
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    He did not do the items I mentioned.
     
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    His policy was NOT THE SAME.
     
  22. AlphaOmega

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    Sure he did. Criminals were spearated from their children by the millions under obama.
     
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    Like Melania says... who cares.
    I mean, they are law breakers. What do they expect, the Hilton?
    The entire reason that these people come is because we are too nice.
    They should be thankful that we are taking care of their kids while they are in jail
     
  24. darroll

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    Years ago the libs signed this into law.
    They figured that no-one would be able to stop (the) dumping kids on our border.. Wrong.
     
  25. WillReadmore

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    Once again, you are not doing your reading.

    You need to do that if you want to contribute here.
     

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