Why do people not value free stuff? Share your thoughts!

lol! I've done roughly the same thing, but never saw a bathtub turned into an overflow replacement. What I did find on multiple occassions were toilets literally filled to the brim, and only then did people call the maintenance guy (me).

I have to admit that I became very racist during that time. I thought "you can take the n word out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the n word". Since then, I've managed to hedge that racism to changing n word to human shaped piles of feces.

It's just that every time I showed up to something like that, there was some black tenant involved, and black neighbors in a black neighborhood, and it took me until I came across something similar from a white tenant.

Section 8 is giving people something for nothing, but I can guarantee you that wherever they lived before, they were just as disgusting. They didn't suddenly not know or care. Maybe they were forced to wipe their own butts when living elsewhere, but I'm fairly confident that wherever those tenants eventually moved to, they brought similar grief to their new landlords.

 

You didn't answer the question. It could have been space aliens who beamed it up. I'm just going with what was given to me, and trying to think of the most obvious answer.

 

I don't think there is a difference, but I don't think you can assume that a communist places no value on "free".

 

Of course there is a difference. I laid itt out for you in widgets. One was free and the other wasn't. What's the difference? It's fairly obvious to everybody that the only difference is that the widget that was stolen was being sold rather than given away.

How do you account for the different outcomes? You can say "I don't think" all day long, but that's not really saying anything except that you have no idea.

So really, until you come up with a theory of your own, you might as well admit that you have no clue.

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Or maybe I was wrong about the generosity thing. Communists have always eventually killed their own, and now here you come along saying there's no difference you see between a 100 dollar lawn mower that can be taken and a free lawn mower that can be taken.

There is a difference between the two, but a communist might not value that difference. The difference is the concept of private property.

So yes, I can well understand your inability to see the difference between a widget being given away, and one up for sale. The one up for sale is no different than the one being given away to a commie. They're both the same thing, and the only difference is the concept of private property, which communists don't value.

 

Easy come, easy go.
The harder it is to do, the harder it is to forget.
If it would be easy (i.e. free), anybody could do it.

And there are probable many more sayings with that same theme.

 

We have tons of free stuff in America. Lots of government goodies. Libs have sent the bill to future generations, but for those of us alive today .. it's all free!

 

ahh, good ol' lefties and their inevitable trite sayings. Gotta hand it to you guys. Deep thinking is like deep breathing to a 3 pack a day smoker.

 

It's still the same lawn mower waiting at the side of the road.
Once it's put out on the kerb and free. it's no longer private property.

 

I'm sure you think the same of cars parked on the street.

Actually, I don't think you see much of a difference between a car parked on the street and one in a garage, if I'm honest.

You've kinda made that clear already. After all, there was a difference between the lawn mower for sale and one for free.

You've already said you see no difference between the two. change it to a car with a "free if you want it" and a "for sale" sign.

No difference to you.

 

What's wrong with those sayings?

In any case, I probably could have written a reply about the thermodynamic impossibility of free stuff, but you probably would have criticized that too, because, you know, it's from "you good ol' lefties".

 

It wasn't put out on the curb for free. It was put out on the lawn with a for sale sign.

 

Can you conflate parked cars with a giveaway lawn mower on the kerb?

 

See post #16

 

Do you think I'm a thief?

 

I read post #16. The mower had a for-sale sign on it. $100. It was not being offered at the curb for free when it was taken.

 

"I live in a rural area. Instead of giving to a charity, we put our discards at roadside so folks in need can have them. My neighbor put a well used but fully functional lawn mower by the road and it sat there for week. Then hedecided to put a sign on it "$100.00." It wasn't there the next morning."

 

Then he decided to put a sign on it "$100.00."

He put a for-sale sign on it, which indicates that the item is being offered for sale, not being given away for free.

 

I think that communists don't value the concept of private property. You've already made it clear that you see no difference between a free lawn mower and one being offered for sale...

That doesn't make you a thief. It just makes you a communist. To be a thief requires a comprehension and value of the notion of private property. To a commie, it's just liberating.

However, to a communist, there is a value to fighting against capitalism. Any capitalists that get caught up in the revolution aren't really people, are they? That's why the killing fields of cambodia weren't really dug to a respectable six feet. Give the condemned a few minutes with a shovel to dig their own grave, then bash them in the head with the shovel because bullets cost money that can be better spent on things other than painless deaths for capitalists.

 

Yes, ok.

 

Wasnt the point of post 16 that we don't appreciate free stuff and therefore to imply that the mower wasn't free, would ensure that it would be taken?
I remember my grandfather being scared of " commies".

 

You're probably aware then, that it's less likely to be people in need trawling through your discards, than it is middle class stay-at-home-moms. I live in a semi-rural but very pricey area, and the first people to stop at roadside trash piles are Soccer Moms in their BMW SUVs. The 'poor' hate old/vintage stuff, in my experience.

 

Such a meanie-pants! You know they're only living that way while waiting for the opportunities which have been denied them (insert race card here). The minute they get that first break, they will metamorphose (overnight) into self-respecting and disciplined individuals, contributing respectfully to your great Nation.

 

Lots of capitalists are scared of communists. The cold war was fought for a reason.

Post 16 simply laid out the distinction between the different states of the same lawn mower. One was for free, and the other was for sale. The only difference is that the for sale sign signified private property rights. Something you maintain doesn't matter.

However, there is a difference between the two states. One was a lawn mower free to anybody who wanted it. The other state was as private property, and as private property, it was stolen. Ya see, there's a difference between taking and stealing, with the latter being the concept of property rights.

One you maintain doesn't matter. So really, you already laid your cards on the table. I'm just explaining why a pair of deuces is beat by a full flush.

 

Depends on the legitimacy of their Communism. If they're Cafe Commies (like most western dabblers), then they adore free stuff ... as long as it's in keeping with the fine ole' fancy lifestyle they imagine they'll get to keep under Communism. That is to say, they want the usual free education and healthcare (which is only reasonable), but they also want free housing in expensive inner city areas of their preferred hipster location. And subsidised soy lattes, probably.

If, however, they're real Commies, they know there's no such thing as a freebie .. and even that stuff on the roadside requires effort to a) find, b) lug home, and b) clean up. They know that everything must be worked for.

 

I wish I could see the difference, but I've never been able to figure out the difference between the soy boy communists and the full-fledged communists who have no problems with killing capitalists. These soy boys will put their own children into debt long before they're out of diapers and simply can't be dug out of, so how is that different?

Communists always think that they'll be able to live like lords once their freedom from private property rights has been achieved. Those communists killing people during Stalin's reign of terror did it with a smile on their face. The same is true of every communist who has ever taken a shovel to the head of a capitalist. They have this dream, and the only reason they aren't as happy as a hog in a puddle of warm mud is because there are a few more capitalists that need to be killed.

This inevitably results in turning on their own kind.

There's no difference between the soy boys and the gestapo. Different uniforms maybe, but the mindset is the same.