Nationalise Health Care

Discussion in 'Health Care' started by Nonnie, Jul 29, 2018.

  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    This thread is discsing NHC.
    Would you like to discuss your desire to take from your neighbors on multiple fronts?
     
  2. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Is there some universal law preventing the gov from establishing a uniform rate for purchasing a health care policy ?
     
  3. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Alright.

    So what about state schools?

    So what about public buildings?

    So what about parks?

    So because healthcare, without any research, could be the dearest, you want equal fees paid by everyone. Ok, got it.
     
  4. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The government fund hundreds of stuff via tax, why do you single out healthcare?
     
  5. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Squirm around it as much as you want.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why, you want us to suffer with you?
     
  7. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    It's a new system. We can set it up however we desire.

    I notice that you enjoy getting subsidized in hundreds of ways. How many ways can you accept something taken from your neighbors and transferred to you before you begin to feel guilty?
     
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  8. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Worms who demand other peoples stuff squirm in the mud
     
  9. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I paid nearly £40,000 in tax last year. That's more money than many people earn in the UK. The average male UK wage is £30,531. Can you advise me what my neighbor is subsidising me?

    That's income tax based on my P40 and P38D.
     
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  10. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I get it.
    Another anonymous internet poster who just enjoys paying taxes and subsidizing his neighbors.
    Haven't seen that one before
     
  11. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you not anonymous? Is squidward your real name?

    How am I subsidized? You've intrigued me.
     
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    Appleo Newly Registered

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    Yes, if something can be privatized, then I don't see why they should be public.

    Private education is better than public education.
    Private buildings are better than public buildings.
    Private parks are better than public parks.

    But buildings and parks... sure let's have some public buildings and parks. They aren't super expensive nor are they necessary to a person's life.

    But education, healthcare, food, clothing, housing.. that should all be in the private sector.

    I'm not understanding what you mean by this sentence.
     
  13. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Obviously you're not. You pay high taxes and thereby subsidize those in lower tax brackets than you, because you care. Very noble
     
  14. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Translation: He wants to pay less than those that make more than him
     
  15. Longshot

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    Because in the US it would be a brand new program and it would be good for at least in this program for everyone to chip in equally.
     
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    That's unfair to the people that make more money
     
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    I'm not talking about any of those. I'm suggesting that if the US were to institute a national health service it ought to fund it exclusively with a new and separate tax that goes into a separate fund which would the the exclusive payment for the health care system. Further, I'm suggesting that every person receive the same monthly or quarterly tax bill for this tax.
     
  18. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You must be a politician, never answered a single thing.
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Why can't individuals simply buy this wonderful policy directly from government instead of a private company like they do currently?

    There's nothing prohibiting this
     
  20. squidward

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    They know this is logical. They want subsidized however. He'll never admit that he wants a wealth transfer
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't care. He wants your money to help pay for him
     
  22. Longshot

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    Yep. Since we all equally share in the benefits of government, why don't we all pay the same amount of tax? Why should some pay more than others when we all get the same thing?
     
  23. squidward

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    Now that doesn't win votes
     
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    The truth is never popular nor appreciated.
     
  25. Old Man Fred

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    Currently, government finances the majority of health care spending in the US, and that doesn't include tax subsidies. So far, single payer only "saves" money if there's a 40% reduction in payments to providers(over current, private health insurance pay schedules), and health care utilization ONLY goes up 9%.
     

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