South Africa to change constitution to legalize taking away white farmers' land

What a bumptious geyser of bullshit. Race cards flying through the air in masses so thick that it looks like an invasion from outer space!

Let's get back to the >CENTRAL ISSUE<, Te, even though I know you will do almost anything to avoid that. Why? Because the central issue is that the Black Hitler you adore, Cyril "Rammy" Ramaphosa is shoving through strong-arm changes to the constitution of South Africa to make it legal to STEAL property from White South Africans -- purely because they ARE White.

Can you deny that? Of course not! It is by now a matter of indisputable FACT! But you'll attempt to deflect wildly, screaming "RACISTS" at everyone who disagrees with you. Is it 'racist' to steal from someone because of their race, culture, and heritage?

You're the big, self-styled, self-appointed expert on who's a 'racist' and who's not -- so tell us, are "Rammy" and "Juju" Malema RACISTS?! Or, in your interesting interpretation, is it only Whites who can be 'racist'? And, therefore, Blacks cannot be 'racist'...? How badly must a mentality be mangled in order to believe this kind of obviously 'racist' crap?

 

The white racist warned that allowing the blacks a voice and government would lead exactly that . They were called "fear mongers" and terrible racists. Now, look at the results. Their prophecy has proven true, like it or not. The blacks have become the racist.

 

I am 21% black, 15% American Indian and the rest is mostly white European. Now I can take an objective look, because I have a dog in every fight, and I see it for what it is. It is black racism, black terrorism, and white persecution. You can be black and see that without special glasses.

 

I assume most farmers in SA know if their ancestors bought the land or simply got it for free from the govt.

 

Are these farmers citizens of another country?
Is killing them lawful?

 

The central issue is the UNDENIABLE FACT that you are promoting racist white supremacist DISINFORMATION while REFUSING to examine any aspect of this issue in an OBJECTIVE manner.

Not my problem if you PERSIST in remaining in abject ignorance of the subject matter because it conflicts with your CONFIRMATION BIAS!

 

Vacuous fallacy duly noted and ignored as being a puerile attempt to deflect from the ongoing failure of those promoting the racist white supremacist agenda to educate themselves as to the relevant subject matter.

 

Good summation of the issues.

Yes Ramaphosa has inherited a massive corruption problem from the Zuma regime and it has handicapped him as far finding a solution to the housing issue. His dilemma is that his own party base is holding the ANC accountable for both the corruption and the failure to deliver on the housing issue.

https://www.news24.com/Columnists/G...t-south-africans-do-want-land-reform-20180619

Given that the majority of the nation understands and wants land reform it is now just a matter of HOW it is implemented.

Ramaphosa is a shrewd and savvy businessman who is NOT going to do anything to jeopardize the economic stability of the nation since that would lead to another situation similar to Zimbabwe. Fortunately he does not have the same mindset as Mugabe so it is highly unlikely that things will deteriorate in the same manner. Here is what Ramaphosa is really focused on.

https://www.news24.com/Columnists/A...m-i-can-no-longer-confidently-say-no-20180806

https://www.iol.co.za/news/opinion/land-reform-debates-reflect-a-tricky-balance-of-power-16491529

It is also worth noting that the South African Constitution Bill of Rights does actually empower the government to remediate the property losses that occurred in the past.

To be perfectly frank the way the SA Constitution is currently written the government does have the power to expropriate land as long as it follows the procedures stipulated above. All that is actually happening is that the ANC is following what is in the Constitution already by passing the relevant legislation.

This Constitution was agreed to by ALL South Africans so what we actually have in this thread is racist disinformation trying to make baseless allegations and stir up racial divisiveness. And the PROOF that this is happening can be found in the Section 26 of the SA Bill of Rights.

Too bad the OP has never bothered to acquaint himself with any of these relevant facts.

 

No, Te.

Getting back on the THREAD TOPIC, to which you are obviously allergic, the entirety of the issue is that South African President Ramaphosa has moved to change the South African Constitution to make it completely legal to STEAL land belonging to White South Africans and give it to Black South Africans. THERE, and there alone, is the real racism in this entire issue, Te, clear and unobstructed, where everyone can see it -- like a big dog turd on the sidewalk.... No "bias" is necessary to SEE it for what it is!

Let's stop right there! Can you put yourself through the 'agony' necessary for you to admit even that one, basic fact? I predict that you will not....

 

Your ALLERGY to FACTS is EXPOSED in post #959 above.

Needless to say you won't respond to it because it contains FACTS that you can't refute!

 

Negative.
The real issue is that black community has suffered immensely under that white supremacist rule for centuries.
And now, they are getting their stuff back that they white population stole.

But here you are, pretending apartheid rule never happened.
What a joke to reality.

 

Frankly, if people from Europe, India, and the Middle-East had never gone to Africa at all, and the entire land mass had been able to go on living its simple, 'idyllic' life in stagnant, often brutal 'Stone Age' cultures and socities, the indigenous Black tribes would not have advanced at all from where they were thousands of years ago. For better or worse, the immigrants from more advanced cultures brought the modern world to Sub-Saharan Africa. You will never, ever admit that, but you can't deny it using anything that approaches logic or factual history.

Oh, but now we're all so far BEYOND that now... right? Here we are, all erudite, educated, and 'politically-correct' in the year 2018, but what does Black South African President Ramaphosa adopt as a beneficial action for his country? The deliberate THEFT of property owned by one group of South African citizens, so that this latter-day CHIEF can distribute the stolen property to his Black TRIBE. How very 'Stone Age'....

 

How very 1930-1945 of you to come up with this black people aren't worthy because of their ethnic background.

 

Interesting, I might have to do some reading on that. But Wouldn't Liberia, not being formed by a colonial power be an exception? And they seem to have a lot of the same problems as other African countries.

 

Sadly, written history doesn't exist with ALL the details of why those who returned to Africa left it in the first place.

 

Should being born white be considered a felony or a misdemeanor?

 

Not to mention their being built by slave labour.

 

Colonies were how countries came into existence.

 

I wouldn't say that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_state

 

What country was it that those early colonies were created in?

 

Colonies aren't created in a country, at least the ones in Africa.

 

Where are they created?