Well I'm not afraid, to share your mentality is an abomination to me. What's really terrifying is if everyone shared your mentality. Well that's fine Mr. Yankee Doodle Dandy, so you're an American on paper and proud of your paper background. But you're not very observant, if you were my signature pretty much should reveal my background to anyone who can read and understand it. The difference (besides many) is I don't need to take an Oath, recite a pledge or sing in front of a colorful piece of cloth to be an American. For me this is what a true American is all about: "The duty of every patriot is to defend his country against his government." - attributed to Thomas Paine but I understand the quote may belong to Edward Abbey "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." - Thomas Jefferson It's definitely not about rabidly defending the US government, a known pathological liar. Your BS pretenses don't move me one iota. What truly disrespects those people who lost their lives on 9/11 and their families and the hundreds of thousands of innocent people who have been massacred under pretext of 9/11 is the criminal failure of the US government to legitimately investigate that crime and instead cover it up by massive fraud. Do you think the Jersey Girls bought the government propaganda garbage you did? "We knew it was a farce, we wanted their words, their lies down on paper" - Patty Casazza How about Bob McIlvane? https://www.ae911truth.org/get-involved/bobby-mcilvaine-act How about the 9/11 Family Steering Committee? http://911truth.org/downloads/Family_Steering_Cmte_review_of_Report.pdf I'm not promoting anything false. There is nothing false about posting facts and trying to uncover the truth about 9/11 and demanding a legitimate investigation. What's false is groveling to a despicable fairy tale made for children and defending it in robotic fashion. Then doing your best to try to silence all discussion that disagrees or questions that tale via trolling and other bullshit such as your "disrespect" delusion. But you're correct that I'm using people like you to educate those who really care and to discuss and share information so I can uncover anything of any importance so I can educate myself. For example, because I started this thread Margot was kind enough to inform me about Barbara Honegger's letter to Trump. Something I hadn't known before.
This site should really be interesting for you. It's chock full of information about the Pentagon. It starts off: The following blog contains a straight forward, easy to follow and to the point list of evidence to show that American Airlines Flight 77, and only American Airlines Flight 77, hit the Pentagon on 11 September 2001. Except that nowhere in the blog does it confirm that any of the physical debris matches AA77. http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/
My God, The plane was already identified We had a plane go down here in WA. someone stole a twin turboprop, flew it around for an hour or so, and then crashed it on an island. They are recovering stuff right now. There are places on and in, the plane with numbers identifying it. But they are not going to bother, they already know which plane it is.
Not physically. Always the apologist, never questioning anything, such as why were 2 FOIA requests for the parts match rejected if it was done and there was nothing to hide? Why were there no serial numbers on 2 claimed recovered FDRs/CVRs? This is unprecedented and far too convenient given the 9/11 event. Irrelevant, that has nothing to do with 9/11. Such a crime requires a legitimate and most thorough forensic investigation, including but not limited to a simple parts match for ALL 4 claimed airliners, as mandated by NTSB protocol. Not a bunch of scam investigations that amount to a massive coverup.
Thanks for all those pictures, and finally for your list of "who saw the airplane strike the building". You've heard the old saying "the Devil is in the details." Of all those people you listed, the bulk of the claims and statements are third hand, "quoting" another. Others are clearly being embellished, like the guy who was sitting in traffic, saw a women in another car near him, and described the shock of hearing the airplane coming up behind him. When aircraft are moving fast over the ground, the sounds they produce are slightly behind them. You cannot hear a fast moving jet coming from behind until it is over you, but this fellow claimed to have heard it coming seconds before it passed over his car. Moreover, the pentagon itself is actually in a bowl, terrain wise. It is lower than surrounding terrain, and that terrain has vegetation and trees which block a clear view of the building. Those stories are just that, stories, unverified and greatly exaggerated. CIT provides awesome testimony, but I'll bet you will never view that. http://thepentacon.com/
Are you aware of the record of the Pentagon and NORAD witnesses before the 911 Commission? They changed their stories so many times that Senator Mark Dayton in August of 2004 suggested charging them with perjury. You place a considerable amount of faith in the many-times-edited statements of known liars, an irrational act.
Baloney, the over 100 eyewitnesses did not change their stories, some may have added more as their memory served them. But over 100 witnesses saw the same thing from different angles. And these are the documented witnesses. There were probably 10 times more. And here again, you are claiming edited statements, when the documented, edited statements are taken from the truther group. Why aren't you speaking of them. Thousands, including my sister, saw the second plane hit the towers.
Yes, planes hit the towers, no question. The Devil in the Details shows that the aircraft that struck the towers WERE NOT flight 11 and flight 175. We were all fooled. Some of us eventually discovered the deception, some like you will NEVER understand the deception. The witnesses you offer regarding the Pentagon most likely did see the same airplane that flew by low-level. They saw the same airplane the witnesses at the Citgo station saw, but that was not AA77 and it did not strike the building.
You are having a hard time with reality. They saw the plane crash into the building, not fly by. If these were not the planes, what happened to all the people who died on them.
No sir, I'm not having trouble with reality at all. Reality is often unpleasant, and that is the case with the events of 911. The reality is that the Official Conspiracy Theory, which you still believe in, is false. That theory is impossible, BECAUSE all the facts work against it. Wrong airplanes at WTC. No airliner at the pentagon, no airliner at Shanksville. A horribly false explanation from NIST as to what happened at WTC. I don't know what happened to the passengers. I do not NEED to know what happened to the passengers in order to understand I was fooled for a number of years. I do not NEED to know how a magician does his tricks to understand that he has fooled me, that I have been fooled. ALL the facts contradict the official story, in which you still believe almost 17 years later. It is you who is having a hard time with reality, but that is understandable.
So you invent a scenario, but conveniently leave out the most important parts. Kind of takes the wind out of your sails. I'm sure somewhere in all the truther BS, someone explained where the people went. It would be a common question.
The deception is not ended with what happened to the passengers. Wrong airplanes and no airplanes suggests there were no passengers. What happened in Cleveland that day, events about which you are completely unaware, suggest that maybe some passengers deplaned there. A Magnificent Deception it was.
I guess, we had many hundreds of people disappear from the planet, and nobody knows where they went. Not even their families.
You mean like the testimony of LaGasse and Brookes who said they saw the PLANE and saw it hit the Pentagon?
I guess based on your rationale above, since Wally Miller changed his statements a few times, he's a liar also? That means we can't trust his statements right?
Always the apologist, even to the point where you need to invent bullshit. According to the official story, 3 planes crashed into 3 different buildings and one crashed into an open field and into a hole in the ground, none crashed into an oven. Also according to the official story the 3 planes that crashed into buildings exceeded VMO by a wide margin (so you're correct on that part). Also according to the official story, parts were recovered including 2 FDRs and 2 CVRs, everything was NOT destroyed. There is a video I posted of a part with a serial number on it and a link I posted with a photo of at least 1 part with a visible serial number on it. So by asking me you show you don't know anything about it but you insist on defending what you have no clue about. NTSB Aviation Investigation Manual Appendix J. Google it yourself it's in PDF form.
Let me get this straight. The government, when planning its "OCT" decided to use planes and then claim they were from flights 11 and 175 instead of using the actual flight identification of the actual planes they used? Just so smart people like you could find the clues and call them out? That's just incredible rationale!
Yet another idiot question. Airplane debris usually comes from airplanes duh! Can't you post anything intelligent?
