Trumps tariffs adding $20,000 to cost of building a home

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    And more tree huggers opposing lumber harvesting than we used to have
     
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    We wouldn't have needed all that forest land if the population hadn't increased by 75 million.
     
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    A large chunk of the 60 million came as a result of foreigners entering our country

    So more sensible immigration policies would help also
     
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    Environmental policies come with a price, as do labor and trade policies.

    In an effort to curb Global Climate Change we must discourage timber extraction which will inevitability increase the cost of new home construction . The rich wont be bothered, the poor though...
     
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    Republicans killed President Obama infrastructure bill............... Trump started one but offered no funding
     
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    Simple solution.
    Don't import.

    Then there are no price rises due to tariffs.

    It's not rocket science. If you are determined to pay more, you can, but you don't have to.
    If you wish to pay $20 k extra to try and make a fool of Trump, carry on, the joke is on you.
     
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    Solution. Build your home as an extension of the border wall. That way you only need 3 walls instead of 4. 25% savings.
     
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    I will bet you are dead wrong about that kazenatsu!
     
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    And yet US steel manufacturers are ramping plants back up putting americans back to work.

    What do you want?

    1. Cheap overseas products that undercut US goods shifting production overseas resulting in people in the US losing their jobs

    2. US made products require conformance with labor regulations and other requirements driving up costs.

    You can choose one, not two.

    You want americans working and paying more with their additional income, or americans laid off barely affording cheap chinese goods?
     
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    Huh?

    Almost every house is filled with gypsum.
     
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    Since newspaper and book production is at a minimum in todays online world we are saving millions of trees just because of online newspapers and books.
     
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    This foulcoon guy doesn't post links. When we used to dog him for a link (on another defunct site) he would post that it "IS A HEADLINE ON MSN!" As if everyone keeps up with that rag. Coon! How are you and Muldoon?
     
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    Do you have a source?
     
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    I wonder if that 20K is all Canadian lumber? You can hardly drive ten miles around here without seeing a sawmill and piles of lumber. We also have a number of tree farms which grow yellow pine. If nothing else, it should help the local saw mills.
     
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    Can you name one of these liberals who advocates for building fewer homes?
     
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    Just go to Berkeley and ask a Democrat. You should be tearing Human Habitat down. Not Building More Human Habitat. Democrats believe that humanity is a plague on Earth. It's like you people don't even listen to what your own side says. I'm sure I can find tons of videos on YouTube of your average Democrat panicking about how messed up the Earth is and what drastic actions we need to do to fix it.
     
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    It's like people don't even take the word of a right-wing clown on a message board over what they themselves think and what those they know who might be "on their side" actually have to say.
     
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    Oregon, and every other state that has very restrictive comprehensive land use planning laws.
     
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    Saying collectivist think for themselves is an oxymoron. Collectivist think what they want until a Democrat tells them what they need to think and then they all goose-step with that.

    As for me I have 10 times The credibility than any Russia truther, Hillary Landslide, propaganda parrot here.

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    You're projecting again, Trumpthinker.
     
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    It looks like at least that much.

    From April 2017 to April 2018, the producer price index jumped by 11.9% for aluminum mill shapes, 11.0% for lumber and plywood and 7.4% for steel mill products. The U.S. has been in a dispute with Canada over lumber imports, has imposed tariffs on several types of steel and has announced or recently imposed additional tariffs—not reflected in the April price index—on steel, aluminum and numerous Chinese construction products.

    Other construction inputs that rose sharply in price from April 2017 to April 2018 include diesel fuel, 41.6%; copper and brass mill shapes, 10.5%; gypsum products, 7.5%; ready-mix concrete, 6.9%; and truck transportation of freight, 6.0%.
    I'm thinking the 41.6% for diesel is a typo, but if you look at lumber, steel, gypsum, transportation and concrete pretty well covers a house.
    https://www.bdcnetwork.com/construc...her-trade-measures-lead-significant-increases
     
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    What makes you think it will be any cheaper when/if domestic production ramps up?
     
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    Come to think of it, much of the lumber and the pulp wood ends up being shipped to China. Seems like it would make sense for us to just use it here in the US.
     
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