End GMOs in exchange for Regenerative Agriculture

Glyphosate has its uses. I hate persistent herbicides like Grazon. Grazon can contaminate your garden for up to three years. I have had experience with the stuff. How many parts per hundred...thousand...million or billion is a person exposed to with roundup? I know Grazon will destroy the productivity of broad leaf plants at 3 parts per billion in the soil.....Now I try not to use any chemicals or store bought fertilizer. But sometimes I see no other option. We have this native grass and it will grow through mulch and just spread. It is a choker. So...during the off season I hit it with Glyphosate. ...twice....it dies....I mulch. And sometimes trees will grow through my garden fence....get them along with the grass....spray twice. When leaves turn yaller....plants need nitrogen......20 20 20 per directions in water.....once.....2 gallons per 20 feet of row....or there bouts.

 

All foods both plant and animal pets and even you yourself are GMOs.

With every generation genetics are modified tomatoes have been modified for hundreds of years same with corn.

Freaking out about GMOs is kind of like freaking out about vaccines

 

I know right? I planted a half pound of gm sweet corn. I did not spray for bugs...no pesticides...but I did use roundup. I put down horse manure in rows about a foot wide and 6 inches thick....maybe little wider. After soil warmed enough I planted the corn. As usual I planted too close together. When it grew some I cut every other plant to make room. I used miracle grow at about 2 gallons for 20 feet of row.....twice.... When weeds came on I sprayed roundup....once..then waited....good clean rows..two ears per stalk....more sweet corn than I had ever seen in my life.....but...It really didnt taste that great. But it looked good!

 

Everything from a plant you eat is genetically modified because of this modification it tastes better or is more nutritious or has a longer shelf life.

If you don't like BT corn try something else.

 

I probably wont find any more gm corn unless I buy 50 pounds of seed. I like the older hybrids like peaches and cream or a good standard yellow. I like a starchy flavor in my sweet corn.

 

I have no idea I don't grow vegetables.

 

Rats being fed genetically modified food eat more and grow fatter than those on a non-GM diet.
http://sciencenordic.com/growing-fatter-gm-diet
This is a long term Norwegian study that includes many other species.


Because of soil depletion, crops grown decades ago were much richer in vitamins and minerals than the varieties most of us get today
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/soil-depletion-and-nutrition-loss/


These two articles are related. Because modern agricultural practices, including GMO, have resulted in less nutritious food, we are eating more and less healthy for it.

GMO are not the devil. They don't even hurt you. They just aint as good as the real thing. Plus, we do end up less healthy from them in the long run.

 

All plants consumed by man are GMOs they have been for centuries.

 

There's quite a difference between hybridization and transgenic modification. When referring to GMOs, most people have transgenic modification in mind. This has only been done for the last few decades.

 

The only difference is the time frame at which desired traits exist.

Same ends though.

 

We eat until we're satisfied. Nutrient-dense food is more satisfying. Nutrient-deficient food is never as satisfying so we eat more and still our bodies are wanting.

Organic food is more nutrient dense than food grown traditionally. Organic farming introduces micro-nutrients into the soil as opposed to traditional farming using commercial fertilizers which concentrate on macro-nutrients. N-P-K is not all there is to a healthy soil. If It's not in the dirt, it's not in the food.

 

Sorry, no and no.

 

mindless contradiction? Don the foil hats.

 

If you're describing your earlier post, I agree.

 

The soil in my garden is very good. I have been adding nutrient rich amendments for years. I found that soil improves the fastest when it is not disturbed. I add everything at the surface. Manure, compost, and especially mulch. All edible surplus....like bean vines, pepper plants, corn and sunflower stalks all go to the goats. The goat manure deposited in the goat shed goes back on the garden. I use old hay in the chicken run and the chicken cleanings go on the garden. I firmly believe that everything should find its way back to the soil. The earthworms do my tilling, mulch does my weeding , and my animals do most of the fertilizing. I water seeds in when first planting...if needed...and seldom water after that. The secret is in the soil.

 

Living near the coast, my soil is very sandy. I do add in mulch between growing seasons but It's not there yet. What I do to compensate is to plant my seeds in starter pots and transplant into the garden. Upon transplanting, I add some compost, cow manure and, for a nitrogen boost, some coffee grounds to each hole. I also add in some crushed egg shell if It's something like peppers, tomatoes, melons or squash.

It's worked well for me. No commercial fertilizers, no pesticides and no herbicides.

I do have to water, though. Too hot here not to, but I collect rainwater for that.

 

You just denied my arguments with nothing. That's not an argument. That's a pathetic little cop out.

You have to explain why it's not the same thing just a shorter time period.

If you just say no and don't explain how I'm wrong I consider that you conceding the point.

 

Hybridization is a breeding technique. GMOs, as commonly thought of, come about by introducing genes that could not ever be introduced by breeding. As I stated earlier, they are transgenic. Time had nothing to do with it.

 

why not do you know what the gene is?

Yes it does when you breed a gene out or into a population that takes time multiple generations simply plugging it in there puts it in instantly.

A gene is a sequence of different components of deoxyribonucleic acid. Weather the sequences created through selective breeding over Generations or it's scissors out of something else and plugged in makes no f****** difference.

 

My garden started out as red clay and rock. It was so hard it took a pick to break it up. I can remember digging holes and filling them with compost and or manure to give my poor plants a chance. Manure in the fall...compost in the spring...and tilling. It was only when I quit tilling and went with an organic mulch did things greatly improve. My garden now produces well. My freezer is full and my animals fed.

 

Yes it does...you cant introduce a gene from another species into a corn plant....unless you splice the gene...or sequence... into the corn plant using enzymes in a lab. You can add genes from monkeys into plants if you like. This cant be done by normal breeding and cross breeding practices.....EVER.

 

Fertile holes do work if the soil is deficient.

Happy gardening!

 

well then how did Apes come to share what is it 90% of the same DNA with humans?

They weren't created in a lab and we're not talking about 90% of DNA when we're talking about modifying vegetables in a lab.

says who?

You show me and have fun proving it that throughout the entirety of time this sequence of DNA will never ever exist in soybeans for example.

It's just a sequence of bonded chemicals all life has the potential to alter it that's actually what happens when things reproduce.

 

no, natural forces at work over time is not the same as implanting genes from other species or plants that roundup built in to their DNA. ffs

 

Sounds good, but one thing. Soil does benefit from periodic disturbance followed by extended periods of rest.

Read up on regenerative agriculture