Proof of a faked Apollo landing???

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No it does not mean that.

    It means that no two pictures are exactly the same.

    There is no reason why it should be in all as opposed to one because in the specific one the light simply reflected JUST right and in others it dd not,

    The reflection explanation is not only possible it is far more plausible than calling it a ceiling fan.

    If it were a ceiling fan it could not simply be removed. They have to be dismounted from the ceiling and disconnected from the wiring. Which means it would be in other photographs if that is what it was.

    It is proof of nothing whatsoever.
     
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    Conspiracy theorists would call night, day ... if it served their delusion.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Light doesn't work randomly like that.

    If its reflecting an object it will continue to do so.

    And yes a ceiling fan could not be removed but the drape could be quickly put back up.

    Scientists with PhD's have attempted to find out what this object is and they have no idea.

    You are not doing a well job.

    Blaming it on light is the excuse you guys always use for everything.

    Its obviously not light.

    The reason is because we also see a shadow from the object on the astronaut in the picture.

    The shadow is not seen in other photographs.

    This can mean that a light source was coming from behind the astronaut taking the picture, or more accurately, off to his right.

    The sun at this moment was in front of him and off to the left as we can see in the pic by the reflection.

    The lander was about 500 yards behind them and couldn't have been a light source.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    I never said light reflects randomly. What should have been clear is that the astronauts DO act randomly we all do at every moment.

    No body can remain perfectly still and the slightest movement from either astronaut can cause a reflection in a curved surface to change or even disappear.

    I am using no excuses at all I am stating fact.

    It is not a reflection of a ceiling fan which is very clear. It looks nothing like a ceiling fan and vaguely resembles the astronaut.

    I am not doing poorly I am massively destroying your premise as you have failed every time and in a very real intelligent objective sense there is NO -picture proving the landing was faked.

    One does not need an explanation from a PHD or anyone else because it is not a ceiling fan and it is proof of NOTHING except that yes we landed on the moon
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People like you will always refuse to believe the proof even when its clearly put in front of them.

    This is what the government relies on, people like you.

    So go toe the line the government tells you to.

    Others of us are independent and will investigate the proof and make up our own minds.

    There is also the issue of it being impossible for a human to pass through the Van Allen belt of radiation around the earth with the minimal protection the astronauts had but since your mind is made up there is no point in discussing it.
     
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    Wrong I will always believe proof. The problem is you have not presented any and that photograph is not proof.

    The government did not tell me that they landed on the moon the absolute irrefutable poof tells me they did and that is what you willfully ignore.. You are projecting your own gullible failure.

    No sorry it was not impossible at all for them to pass through the van allen belt with the protection they had.

    Those fools making such claims are simply trusting in people like yourself being ignorant of how radiation works and refusing to learn sijkple science.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course you don't. The ultimate proof that it was faked is the picture below. It shows a round Earth. All conspiracy theorists know the Earth is flat.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I have seen some telescope pictures of a couple landing sites

    But i have two questions for you

    1. What difference does it make? At some point humans will return to the moon and settle the question. But before then, neither side of thevdispute will be convinced... but what difference does it make?

    2 If it was a fake, why didnt the soviets call out the fake? They had not only a strong motive, but also tge technology? So why didnt they challenge the american story at the time?
     
  9. Bob0627

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    Your insults don't convince me of anything one way or the other in terms of this discussion. All they do is convince me that you never have anything intelligent to post. Conspiracy theorists consist of just about everyone in the legal and intelligence industries, so you managed to insult every one of them as well. If you actually believe a photo can't be faked, perhaps because it comes from authority then I can understand why you indulge in insults in lieu of adult discussions when your world view may be compromised. You're not doing yourself any favors Max.
     
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    It makes a huge difference in terms of history and the art of propaganda (if indeed that's what it was). The alleged moon landings are quite a significant piece of human history, whether they're real or faked.

    They can only "return" if they've been there before. Whether the question that there were human moon landings in the last century will ever be settled remains to be seen. I'm pretty sure eventually humans will step foot on the moon (again?) in the future if they don't destroy themselves first.

    The difference is if the matter were settled this thread would not exist. We are here to discuss all sorts of issues because after all, this is a discussion forum and we all joined for that purpose. I understand some joined just to insult other posters but I think most of us joined for legitimate reasons. Convincing other posters one way or another is not my personal objective, I'm here merely to discuss and educate others and myself in the process.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1) You need to lighten up, Bob. It was a joke.

    2) If you really hate, dislike and/or have such a high disregard of me, why do you keep paying attention to me? Try this: CLICK FOR PEACE OF MIND.
     
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    The flag* anomaly has already proven the hoax but there's a lot more stuff. Click where it says "Apollo/Moon here to see more.
    http://www.aulis.com/


    Look at figure 7 on this page.
    http://www.aulis.com/photostudy.htm

    I can't figure out how to debunk that one. That bar should cast a shadow somewhere no matter where the sun is. If I missed something, can someone point it out?


    edit six minutes later
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    There are some interesting contradictions pointed out here.
    http://www.aulis.com/brian_cox.htm

    Some astronauts saw stars and some didn't.



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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-move-so-it-was-obviously-in-a-studio.362999/
     
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    That is not a contradiction.

    Just as minor anomalies do not prove your case. You constantly claim they do but science proves you wrong.

    Science recognizes anomalies everywhere and they prove nothing one way or the other.

    Just as you never face the fact that the mirror left on the on by Apollo 11 proves you wrong. You lie about addressing it but you never have.

    Just as you have never explained how so many can keep such a massive secret for so long which defies all forms of logic.

    Naturally you will point to a previous post which has been crushingly debunked and claim you have addressed it but that is a dishonest claim as you never have.

    You simply repeat yourself over and over despite the fact that you have never produced evidence and massive evidence crushes and destroys your assertions.
     
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    Some astronauts saw "Santa Claus" and others didn't.

    PS. "Santa Claus" is their secret term for UFO',s
     
  15. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Then post your "jokes" in the Humor and Satire section of the forum, this isn't it.

    I don't hate, dislike or have a disregard for anyone in this forum. I know no poster on a personal basis. I post in response to posts, that's what this forum is all about, it's called a discussion. If you respond to my posts, I will either respond to them as I see fit (or not), or report them if they violate the rules of the forum. Having said that I've only put one poster on ignore because all he ever does is troll.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL. Flat Earthers are conspiracy theorists. That is this section.

    That's not what you posted previously, Bob.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    And so are you. And?

    That's because I posted what you're responding to yesterday. And?
     
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    Made me chuckle. I think Bob has been on his 911 crusade to long!
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed. 9/11 Truther, Moon landing hoax theorist. Heck, he might even think the Warren Commission got the JFK assassination all wrong!
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, since about 2004 and probably for the rest of whatever little time I have left, way too long. The problem should have been mostly solved back then but you see it hasn't been and is very unlikely to be solved in my lifetime. So I keep on trucking, unlike the vast majority who don't give a fvck and are content with the official fantasy despite that they're using it to massacre innocent people for profit and doing their fascist best to try to destroy every protection guaranteed by the Constitution. But please don't worry about that, go on your merry way, there's nothing to see here. It's all a big joke for the complacent and gullible fools. It's best just to ridicule those who really care about 9/11, it's fun, fun, fun.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Naw that's impossible, everything is honky dory in fairy tale land. Don't worry about a thing Max. Everything they tell you is exactly what it is, they will never ever lie to you because you know politicians are extremely honest people and always have your best interest at heart. It's those nasty "truthers", they're always trying their damnedest to try to get at the truth and mess up these wonderful US government stories just to stir up schit for no reason at all.
     
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    Everyone knows it's phony.
    They really took those pictures on Mars.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    If it comes from the US government my first instinct is they’re peddling a bunch of lies. And that’s because of their very long documented history of pathological lies. Unlike you I don’t readily trust them just because they are authority. Only a complete fool would not hold these politicians’ feet to the fire. For you obviously ridiculing those who question authority is a fun game. Your immaturity is on display with most of your post.
     
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    It seems your immaturity is on display, You are just making up stuff to fit your warped logic.
    I don't just trust the government to tell the truth all the time. and in many cases they can't for a multitude of reasons.

    Your attitude is they are wrong all the time, so anything they say is BS.
    If they say the sky is blue, you would claim lies, lies, and then pull up some bogus claim, it is really green.

    No, some things in the world really did happen, and the attitude, if the government agrees with them, they must be wrong, is simply childish.

    Your inability to face, and answer, direct questions, diminishes your claims, and basically proves your claims wrong.

    When someone confronts you with a question, you refuse to answer, you just call them trolls.

    Realistically, my claims are no more preposterous than yours.

    Next time they show up on the moon, the flag will be in a hanging down position.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    You call this mature and logical?:

    How about this?:

    Who are you kidding?

    Can't or won't? So far I've never seen a single post from you that ever questions anything that comes from the US government. That indicates you ALWAYS trust the US government to tell the truth.

    You're making shyt up, I never said they are wrong all the time. I said I never trust the US government to be telling us the truth. There is quite a difference but obviously you read whatever you want to read into my posts.

    Also made up stupidity. If I know something is true then it is true no matter who says it. If the US government tells me something is true and I don't know it's true, my position is always that they're lying unless and until they can prove otherwise.

    Wrong, more made up shyt. I answer legitimate questions from anyone. All one has to do is read my responses to many, many posts from those I disagree with, including you. I call trolls what they are when they post idiotic nonsense that have nothing to do with the topic being discussed (such as the ones I quoted from YOU).

    That's highly debatable.

    Yet another idiotic post, talk about preposterous.
     

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