Why I dislike the AGW cult

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Deniers are people who, even though their chances of winning a lottery might be 1 in 175 million, will still go out and buy tickets instead something they really need. That might not sound so bad, but they’ll actually make plans on how to spend their winnings. That’s a cult like behavior.
    Trump just plays on these lackies.
     
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    Flat-earthers all say round-earthers are the real cultists, because round-earthers keep pointing out how stupid and reality-defying flat-earth beliefs are. You act exactly like them. You say the rational people are the real cultists, because we keep pointing out how stupid and reality-defying denier beliefs are. Flat-earthers are obviously cultists. and you're also obviously a cultist.

    That's just one example of why you're a cultist, of course. There are many more.

    You're part of a group that is completely detached from reality.

    You worship a charismatic authority figure.

    Your leaders have absolute authority and can do no wrong.

    Your group does not allow critical inquiry.

    Your group manipulates and coerces its members.

    Your group takes your money and time, and encourages you to break with anyone not in the cult, including family.

    Your group tells you to distrust and fear the world outside of the cult.

    Go down the list of cultist traits, and you display most of them.
     
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    Excellent list of AGW cult charecteristics.Thankyou.
     
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    That is a rage.

    No reference to any statements, no quotes, no real life example.

    That is an expression of a cult.

    And a proof that AWG is nothing but a cult.

    Only blind rage.
     
  5. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Flat-earthers also rage about how we round-earthers are the real cultists. No cultist believes themselves to be a cultist.

    How do I know I"m not the cultist?

    A. The whole planet agrees with me.

    B. All the facts and science agree with me.

    Now look at your side.

    A. The whole planet considers you to be crazy.

    B. All the facts and science flatly contradict your loopy claims.

    Conclusion? You're the cultists, and we're the normal people.
     
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    First it was 98% of scientists, now it is the whole planet...

    No cultist can stand on his own.

    Sorry, I disturbed you.

    May God heal your soul.
     
  7. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, yes, the whole planet is wrong. You and a tiny handful of other courageous and patriotic elite thinkers are the only ones who grasp the RealTruth.

    Myself, not being a raging narcissist, I understand that if the whole world disagrees with me, it's extremely likely that I'm the one who is getting it wrong.

    Have you considered the guru route? That is, instead of being a cult follower, be a cult leader. You owe it to the world. It would be of great benefit to mankind if everyone could be exposed to your teachings, wisdom which currently only superior intellects like you can understand.
     
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    Calm down.

    The whole world neither agree nor disagree with you.

    And so 98% of pseudo-scientists.

    You don't have any means to distinguish between science and pseudo-science, can you?

    So calm down, nobody asks you.
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Scientologists try that too.

    But the vast majority does agree with me, and disagrees with you.

    Here are some some signs of pseudoscience. Your side hits them all, ours hits none.

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    Saying you have secret knowledge

    Making grandiose claims of overturning the scientific consensus, without backing it up

    Having a profit motive

    Citing authority instead of data

    Telling adherents to "just believe"

    Deliberately throwing away good precise data in favor of bad fuzzy data.

    Rampant cherrypicking.

    Needlessly complicating matters

    Ignoring all failures of the theory

    Claiming all contrary data is faked, and that a conspiracy exists

    Not replicatable
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    Yep, you're definitely doing pseudoscience.
     
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    You got it right, except you forgot to look at yourself in the mirror:

    Now I have cited you repeating the main argument of all adepts of the cult of AWG/ACC.

    I would ask you to cite me where I ever referred to any authority, but I know that no deranged fanatic would be able to look at the reality.

    Fanatics are completely blinded by their rage.
     
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    Isn't Lord Kelvin your hero?
     
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    Lord Kelvin is a hero of Thermodynamics, the most fundamental and including natural science propositions of which are denied or ignored by the scientific majorities, science deniers.

    Science deniers are completely blinded by their rage.
     
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    Well, I can at least agree that Kelvin was a great scientist.
     
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    YIKES!

    The data is not all there, yet. However, this be would a scary prediction if AGW was involved:
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41...il&utm_campaign=briefing&utm_content=20180914
     
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    Obviously one hurricane doesn't make a trend, but it is consistent with theory. Other predictions are that cyclones will move slower in the future and will be larger in size. Note that Florence has a rather large wind field. In fact, Florence is the 3rd most intense (in terms of barometric pressure) of a landfalling category 1 hurricane. Her large size means the kinetic energy went into expanding the wind field instead of making the wind field faster. She's definitely atypical in that regard as well. Note that Hurricane Sandy holds record for the most intense (in terms of barometric pressure) landfalling cyclone to only have category 1 wind speeds. In fact, the top 10 list of barometrically intense but "weak" hurricanes is dominated with post 2000 cyclones.
     
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    Which god is that ?
     
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    Precisely!

    You will notice that these types of people love making use of the Inversion Fallacy (ie, "projection").
     
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    Science is not a method. It is a set of falsifiable theories.
     
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    Science is not a publication either, dagosa... it is a set of falsifiable theories.

    Logic, science, and mathematics all stand in the way of currently proposed "greenhouse gas models" and current "temperature data" often toted by AGW zealots as "the data"... It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth with current land based thermometers nor with satellites.
     
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    AGW rejects logic, science, and mathematics.
     
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    You seem to know nothing about the topic. If you did, you’d be quoting one of the thousands of universities and reaserch facilities that ALL DISAGREE WITH deniers
    You’re just spouting woo woo.
    Just go to an accepted authority on global warming, which seems o be everyone but deniers. .
     
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    For a topic that was based in science and math....you seem quite ignorant of all of the above.
     
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    Science is not a method ? It’s even called...the “scientific method”. You’re delusional. You do know what a “bachelor of science “ means ? WTF do you think engineered the computer you’re typing on ? People who know nothing about science and deal in falsified theories ?
     
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    Science is not called "the scientific method". It does not consist of a method. It consists of falsifiable theories.
     

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