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  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Not at all.

    What we are finding out is everything you post about this turns out to be bullsh-t anyways.
     
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    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Here you go. Take your pick. So which plane image overlay looks correct?

    pentagon aerial2.png
    pentagon aerial.png

    Fetzer's bottom, mine top. Which matches the plane flight angle when view from the camera?
    757compare.jpg
     
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    Yours obviously. But this can be explained by the plane's being too small.

    If you say the tail size is right, I'll say that the picture is probably bogus anyway.

    I'm starting to wonder if Fetzer's page is a debunker-food trap now. I've fell into a few of those over the years.


    Until we can find a good overhead view on which we can just do the measurements, this is on hold. I did this before years ago.
    http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7208375&postcount=243

    All the links to the info are dead now so it has to be done again.
     
  4. Gamolon

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    Correct, so Fetzer and his inset photo are WRONG.

    I don't disagree, but you have yet to provide any proof whatsoever that it WASN'T a 757 in that camera view. I on the other hand have just proven that it COULD be a 757 coming in at the angle that is stated. You thought Fetzer's information proved the 757 explanation wrong. I showed you how his "proof" was incorrect and why.

    Which picture? My inset?

    Yeah, that seems to be your ONLY reason when you get proven wrong. Someone's a sohpist or a shill and their information is bogus.

    Why do you keep posting a link to dead links? Who cares? Do the work you think proves the 757 in the photo wrong.
     
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    Okay?

    And I've shown one piece of evidence that shows it ISN'T bogus as the inset picture I used of a 757 at a 45 degree angle correlates to the size of the object AND the flight path it used.
     
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    Also, we've just shown that Fetzer's picture is bogus.
     
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    So now we are reminded, again, of how OCT apologists wonder about nothing at all. They are most uncurious, as demonstrated by posts 975 and 976.
     
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    I'm surprised Bob hasn't quoted you and said that he will report you because you're not on topic. Biased at all?

    I wonder...
     
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    We are also reminded how truthers post no evidence to make "OCT apologists" wonder about certain things. Can you post the evidence that supports the fact that there were missile batteries around the pentagon on 9/11? No? I suppose we should just take Barbara's word for it. I mean, as long as it goes against the "OCT" it's gotta be the truth.
     
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    IMO the controversy is not so much what actually hit the Pentagon, the twin towers or what allegedly dropped into a hole and buried itself at Shanksville, it's whether any of these are truly the flights identified as UA93, AA77, UA175 and AA11. And if they indeed are those designated planes, who or what really piloted those airliners. I believe it is claimed that 3 of them exceeded VMO (the Shanksville claim was that the plane dived) so why and/or how did they not break up before reaching their respective destinations and why or how were they able to fly precisely into their targets at such extreme velocities?

    If the recovered debris has not been destroyed (given that most of the 9/11 evidence has been destroyed it's highly unlikely), it can still be forensically analyzed. Or if it has been analyzed as claimed by the former Chairman of the NTSB Marion C. Blakey in her testimony to Congress and the results have not been destroyed then it should be publicly released.

    The controversy needs to settled 17 years later. There is no excuse for these and a ton of other controversies to still exist to this day. Accepting these official stories as fact that are just not credible is the ultimate in ignorance. Defending these stories by inventing all sorts of supporting theories and failing to question any of it is disingenuous.
     
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    Scott asked me for a link, which I provided for him concerning the Pentagon videos in the Coste presentation ... not a peep from Scott other than more vids that I have already seen ... another disingenuous troofer ...
     
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    You won't believe it, and I'm really sorry I can't provide a link to it, but there have been pictures and articles published long before 911 regarding the missiles defending the White House and its Prohibited Area airspace designated P-56.

    In civilian aviation magazines there has always been discussion, and photos somewhere, of the missiles used to defend P-56.
     
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    DNA analysis has confirmed that the four flights are indeed the ones that crashed ...

    yeah it's been 17 years and the troofers are still grasping at straws ... it's almost sad to watch but nah ... far too amusing ... :fishing:
     
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    This is ALWAYS your excuse.
     
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    I am shocked ... that you never have any links to the BS you spout ...
     
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    And this is always your response. Nothing that contributes to the discussion at hand--whether or not P-56 and the WH are defended by AAM--just deflective comments.
     
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    DNA identifies human beings not airplanes. You're not making any sense as usual.

    The rest of your post is neither adult nor intelligent and is off topic.
     
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    Yeah, DNA work done by and controlled by the Pentagon and other branches of the federal government.

    Coroner Miller in Shanksville explained how it all worked at his location.
     
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    the human beings departed on said aircraft ... are you really clinging that hard to parts numbers? ...

    of course ... the numbers of conspirators lengthens ...

    don't suppose you have a link to Coroner Miller? ...
     
  22. Gamolon

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    What's there to discuss and make contributions to? You made a claim and fail to back it up and provide lame excuses as to WHY you can't back it up. Where is there ANY proof of missile batteries at the Pentagon on 9/11?

    Put up or shut up. It's as simple as that.
     
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    I can play your games too.

    There have been pictures and articles published long ago regarding there not being missile batteries at the Pentagon and defending the airspace around it, but I can;t provide links to them or any information supporting it.

    See, I can do that too. How does that kind of lame crap further discussion?
     
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    Links to documentation that show planes immediately start to break upon when exceeding VMO.
     
  25. Gamolon

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    Delete
     
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