Trump Threatens Canada ‘Ruination’ on Autos Amid Nafta Talks

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF? seems deflection is your only defense.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dunning Kruger in action.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It'll be painful for both sides. We'd suffer more in the short term, but I agree that in time we'd break out of the branch plant dilemma.
     
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    That's not a very nice thing for a Canadian to say. I thought Canadians were nicer than Americans.

    I really do know how Canadians think. Canadians are very open about it when they think they are talking to other Canadians. ;-)

     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Canadian are on the whole are more POLITE, not necessarily "nicer".

    Comedy is of course just the thing to inform you of how an entire nation "thinks". Typical.
     
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    An accurate definition of illiberalism needs no defense.
     
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    Nothing that he says can change fect trump ahd nothing to with the increases in 2015 -2016 & 2017
     
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    That is not what he is saying. Are you sure you can read ??
     
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    Actually, I've not identified anything yet that does get thru to them. Trump bragged during the campaign how much he "loved" the uneducated. They form the core of his base & support him blindly in every detail with never a thought to the impacts his policies will have or are having on our society at large or our personal rights as individuals. It is astonishing and depressing to realize that a third of our electorate is a member of this mindless mass. it's even more difficult to accept that our elected officials from the new Trump Party--even those who've been around for decades, are consciously being subservient to Trump regardless of how that affects the health & safety of our Constitutional system. They've abandoned their own Constitutional responsibility for checking the excesses of the Executive Branch entirely, choosing instead to become high ranking sycophants to Trump instead. This is more than sickening. It's dangerous--a threat to our republic as a functioning entity, and to our rights as individuals. Trump is extremely self-absorbed, but not stupid. He shares many personality traits with those who become or became dictators--which he'd clearly enjoy becoming himself, given the opportunity. That aspect of him that doesn't allow anyone close to him to act on their own without his permission and often his direct supervision, forces me to conclude that the growing number of his associates that have been charged with criminal acts, certainly didn't carry thru with them without his knowledge & active support. Trump likes to be in control. He doesn't tolerate loose canons going off around him. In my mind, Trump has joined that small list of Presidents renowned for their failures in office--possibly replacing the one on the bottom rung.
     
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    Trump Derangement Syndrome. ^^
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for the example of Trump Delusion Syndrome. (see how that works? maybe not).
     
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    I was sure they were kidding about your army being issued plastic knives and forks to replace their guns.
     
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    Thats what the facts are, or are you claiming trimp made nato countries increase their defense spending before he was president or even candidate?
     
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    The problem with your analysis is that it only applies to about 5% of workers.
    "Wage rage?" What the hell are you smoking? This country has a long way to go in either party before it can even begin to address its economic problems.
    The lag is more like 6-9 months.
    Eventually the labor market tightens, inflation takes hold, the Fed raises short-term interest rates, the yield curve inverts, we have a recession where workers are let go, and inflation eases.
     
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    Trump's behaviors lead to my conclusions. If those behaviors don't bother you, fine. They do bother me, and that's my right. I still believe in certain humane values that Trump doesn't recognize or honor. My opinion is supported by mountains of evidence. My conclusions are accurate.
     
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    The solution isn't leaving First Nations out in the uneconomic boonies, nor is it giving them a de facto veto over necessary economic activity. Canada has quite a mess on its hands. I believe the ultimate solution is First Nations becoming part of Canadian society while retaining some of their cultural identity. It will cost a lot of money over decades to solve the problem, more than the Canadian people appear willing to spend.
     
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    Ah, yes: the leftie attempts st juxtaposition are very amusing. I see exactly how that works.
     
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    Read Stoltenberg again.
     
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    More TDS. What are your top three humane values that Trump does not recognize or honor ??
     
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    I agree, that the current de facto veto over necessary economic activity is a big obstacle, but it isn't insurmountable.

    Considering the past, is going to take a lot over a fairly long time to rectify, assuming we can cooperatively formulate a strategy that does embrace first nations as a integral part of our society and not as second class citizens that Ottawa et.al. lords over regardless of their righteous intent. (such as residential schools, poisoned water and wide scale corruption resulting in that arrogance)

    Course, there is widespread bigotry, so there is always going to be a vocal minority that will whine about how first nations aren't owed anything and their plight is their fault.
     
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    I pretty sure that your definition of the word juxtaposition isn't.
    But it is an example of exactly how you work.
     
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    There you go again. Too funny.
     
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    Fooled you once again, it seems. It wasn't plastic utensils, it was hockey and box lacrosse sticks.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ah yes, your go to response when you got absolutely nothing of merit or wit to respond with.

    But rest assured, you can't possibly be too funny.
     
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    The retaliatory tariff solution for Canada has aleady been rolled out--put tariffs on U.S. goods available from competitors. Ford, GM, and Chrysler will be dead in Canada.
     

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