Trump Threatens Canada ‘Ruination’ on Autos Amid Nafta Talks

@Jonsa too
Triligualism is called for
All communications in Inuit too.
You @LangleyMan are so very EuroCentric !&!



Or,
The Language of North America, North of the Rio Grande is Anglais!
We don't need Frog, nor Espaniole, nor any Language beyond the Lord's favored, English.

Si?


Moi

PM elect

The Challenger could only do three.​

 

ER, not that is not correct. Did you fail to read the link I gave you? I agree that trump's polling on the economy is marginally better that obama's. But that is the ONLY metric where he "wins" against obama and considering the clustermuck that he had to deal with and the rising economy trump was handed, I think that makes some sense.

here it is again"

http://www.uab.edu/news/research/it...influence-flow-of-alternative-news-to-twitter

BTW - Obama's highest approval on the economy was 61%.

 

how long before trump quits in shame?

 

Read above. This was covered in a previous upload. #904
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...id-nafta-talks.541311/page-46#post-1069645588
The difference between an individual, poster child, and a population. Duh - Uh.


tried to create lots of Native American Poster Children in the 19th Century
but it never took to the population as a whole.
Similar to Black people, Native Americans are seemingly most obstinate about mainstreaming.
Thus they deny themselves of the benefits of their true nation.
Enjoy, or not #904 linked above.
Don't make me copy / paste it

 

Kinda moot ain't it? I mean all steel imports are now subject to 25% tariff.

As soon as NAFTA is done or scrapped then Canada will directly deal with attempts to thwart american tariffs by transshipping.

If there is no deal, then there ain't any problem, is there? Canadian steel will be tariffed just like Chinese steel, so its moot.

And lets not forget that its AMERICAN CUSTOMERS who were attempting to circumvent the tariffs as well.

 

Populations, not individuals, Please.
You telling Moi as populations they are successful?

 

The twelfth of never - and that's a long long time.

 

How can a nation have sovereignty if a supra-national entity controls their environmental, etc, laws?

Who provides the domestic protections?

Absolutely not! Different cultures have different ideas about how life should be lived. That is how we know they are different cultures, for goodness sake!

Did Mao have the ability that Xi is about to obtain from Google that monitors what every Chinese resident is thinking about by monitoring their questions and interests. Could Mao institute an automated "social desirability" index for Chinese citizens?

The most populous nation in the world and the main beneficiary of globalization is expanding via the belt and road initiative and implementing an instrumentality (I love that word!) of totalitarian control that our twentieth century totalitarians could not have even imagined. I don't think our liberal democracies will survive and will end up emulating the system.

 

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Are you telling me that populations aren't made up of individuals?

And no of course the first nations are not "successful". how could they possibly be given what we have done to them over multiple generations?

Unfortunately many cannot reconcile their cultural heritage with the modern world. One of my surrogate sons is first nations. Poor kid had a helluva time trying to come to grips with his own identity as a young adult, but education and maturity did the trick.

 

That's why the tariffs were imposed.

Because China had pimp slapped Canada into submission. Talk blunt - this is blunt: ""By following the U.S. suit, Canada is acting like a crafty merchant. Chinese people used to hold full respect for Western countries. But as their exchanges grow, these countries begin unveiling their selfish and cunning nature," the editorial said.

"We have professional teams to cope with small countries of this kind," the editorial said."
CNBC/REUTERS, China should take "punitive" measures against Canada if the country's new aluminium and steel anti-dumping regulations target Beijing, Chinese tabloid Global Times said in an editorial.,Published 9:28 PM ET Thu, 29 March 2018, Reuters.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/29/chi...nti-dumping-rules-propaganda-outlet-says.html

 

The idea of the "individual" is a comparatively recent notion (c. the Enlightenment) and most developed in the West. The Chinese, for instance, have a much weaker notion of individual and also of privacy. That is some of what I meant that different cultures have different ideas of how to live life.

A friend of mine in high school said "The problem with Americans is that they believe that inside of everyone in the world is a little American trying to break out."

I suspect you suffer from a similar idea. Would you be OK if the Western notion of society as a set of individuals were supplanted by the Chinese conception of society which emphasizes conformity and obedience?

(and then there is the Japanese maxim which illustrates their idea of social organization: "The nail that sticks up gets hammered down.")

 

Don't be inane, please.

Look at upload #904 and all the peoples/nations it mentions
"we" have tried to civilize.

http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/trump-threatens-canada-‘ruination’-on-autos-amid-nafta-talks.541311/page-46#post-1069645588
Okay, it is worth repeating -

Even with hundreds of years, you just can't take a neolithic people and advance them to modern times.
It doesn't work.
Consider Polynesia, Australia Aborigine, Sub Sahara Africa, Philippines, and native Americans. Maybe even the ones the Spanish made into Latino.

Any success stories?
Successful populations I mean, not individuals.



Moi

to despite best efforts ​

 

Yeah its just before the new year.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90225375/bookmakers-trump-impeachment-odds-are-way-up-after-cohen-trial
Following Cohen’s guilty plea and Manafort’s sentencing, the American betting house BetDSI.com says it cut odds on the possibility of the House impeaching Trump in his first term. Among bettors using BetDSI, Trump is now an overwhelming favorite to be impeached before 2021. The odds are 1/5 or -500. That means a bettor would have to risk $500 just to win $100 on a bet that Trump will be impeached. Before Cohen’s guilty plea earlier this week, the odds were -150, BetDSI’s Scott Cooley tells me.

 

Does increasing text size make your point more pointy?

I agree that attempts by the colonizers to "modernize" indigenous populations has failed dismally in virtually every instance. Even in America. I also agree it can't happen over night. But I wasn't suggesting that dealing with our own indigenous peoples situation is an easy political fix, only that we have to man up and address with a rational, empathetic and effective multifaceted strategy.

 

Give me an example of a population successfully moved from neolithic
to modern in 300 - 400 years. I've given examples of failures. Si?

 

Every nation retains their supreme authority over their own laws. Its like a free trade agreement. Each nation chooses to agree.

the domestic government.

That is true, but "better natures" is not a cultural thing. That was my point.

But since you brought it up, within cultures there are a variety of ideas of how life should be lived. In fact all kinds of national political parties are predicated on those differing opinions. Same culture, different ideals.

He did in a crude way. Technology has simply made it one helluva lot easier. And yes he did establish a social desirability "index" of sorts. Its the underpinnings of his cultural revolution.

China is advancing this 21st century "1984" precisely because of the enormous internal social tensions that threaten the existing status quo.

OTOH, considering that that power is currently in the hands of all kinds of corporate interests throughout the democratic world, it wouldn't be much of a leap to the government taking that capability over - in the interests of national security of course.

 

Now you are believing chinese propaganda. What russian bullshit not exciting enough?

as for china pimp slapping us, I leave that determination to you whom I surmise can recognize it thu extensive repeated experience.

 

I happen to agree with your high school friend. I recall the repeated "they want what we have" mantra of the pundits and politicians.

I am well aware of differing social attitudes. And considering I am a child of my culture,no I would not like to see western notions supplanted by asian notions, although I would like to see a little more compromise for the perceived greater good.

 

Saudi arabia.

 

And again please read what Stoltenberg said.

 

Not Neolithic in the year 1500.
They certainly knew metal working beyond tokens.

 

My and Trump’s understanding of what a high rate of economic growth means to the standard of living is spot on. Improving the standard of living of the low income quintiles is the epitome of compassion. Why does this have to be explained repeatedly to the left ??

 

He is implementing real supply side economic policies. Your problem is that you are ignorant of what supply side policies are.

 

What part of "blowing smoke up donnies arse" being a global strategy in dealing with you Dear Leader?

Or have you not discerned the pattern?

 

okay point taken.