Why I think Christine Ford is lying

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  1. Max Rockatansky

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    Agreed. Why is Trump and the Republicans so afraid of an FBI investigation. Several on this forum have screamed that Ford and the Democrats have broken Federal law. If they are telling the truth then why don't they want the criminals investigated and brought to justice?
     
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    Wrong on all points, but watching you explode into a bubbling mess pushing a false narrative is just sad.
     
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    "the organization said it is making the extraordinary request "because of the ABA's respect for the rule of law and due process under law," ....."The basic principles that underscore the Senate's constitutional duty of advice and consent on federal judicial nominees require nothing less than a careful examination of the accusations and facts by the FBI," said Robert Carlson, president of the organization"

    Wow. Impressive, but the Republicans are desperate to put Kavanaugh on SCOTUS, so I doubt the vote will be delayed.
     
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    I suspect the FBI investigation is opposed by conservatives due to the delay it would entail. I sensibly doubt even the FBI could substantially resolve an investigation of the rather vague 30-some year-old claims within a few weeks. The call for an FBI investigation is sensibly perceived as just an effort to delay proceeding until after the midterms hoping by then the Democrats will have a majority in the Senate and could oppose Kavanaugh's confirmation.
     
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    We have the votes!
     
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    Thanks again for the completely false narrative.

    Agreed on the FBI investigation, but neither Trump nor the Republicans seem interested. Why do you think they just want this to go away?
     
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    Of course you do. Was there any doubt?
     
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    not only is there not going to be any wild goose chase investigation by FBI, but Trump is going to shut down that Mueller Fishing expedition and FIRE that clown Rosenstein.

    Then Kavanaugh will get confirmed tomorrow.

    Then after 2018 Mid term elections Democrat Socialists will find themselves relegated to 3rd party status, eventually calling themselves the Marxist Party, and then the Democrat party will cease to exist.
     
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    The FBI investigation would be on Ford, Judge and all the others involved. Nothing to delay Kavanaugh's confirmation.
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    Perhaps I misunderstood Dr. Ford's testimony today but I specifically remember her stating, and I'm paraphrasing: "When I saw that Brett Kavanaugh was on the shortlist and headed toward nomination I fealt a "civil duty" to report Brett and the sexual assault on me. It was my "civic duty".

    Its a freaking point against her. One it paints her outcry as politically motivated. Secondly her "civic duty" is to her sister citizens which by her measure she failed. If Brett Kavanaugh was a sexual predator then the "civic duty" is to tell the world ASAP so no other teen girls are groped or worse.

    Dr. Ford failed her "civic duty."

    Why? Because there was no sexual predator, no one was in jeopardy.
     
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    Most rape victims don't report. Some women go forward and report. Others have too much shame or are afraid they won't be believed.
     
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    By what authority could the FBI investigate Ford, Judge or the others? The Senate Committee on the Judiciary determines who has lied and then issues a criminal referral. Without the referral there's no 'crime' to investigate.

    The Senate has the power to investigate this.

    The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary has investigators, over a hundred. These investigators (with committee action, subpoena, contemp etc) have the power to compel testimony and documents. Through its inherent contemp power the Senate can jail. The Committee also has direct access to the Courts to charge statutory contempt and the courts (Judiciary) have little leeway but to affirm the charge if the issue is a legitimate legislative action. In this case the legitimacy is Advise and consent. The Attorney General handles the trial.

    (1) Inherent Contempt

    Under the inherent contempt power, the individual is brought before the House or Senate by the
    Sergeant-at-Arms, tried at the bar of the body, and can be imprisoned in the Capitol jail. The
    purpose of the imprisonment or other sanction may be either punitive or coercive. Thus, the
    witness can be imprisoned for a specified period of time as punishment, or for an indefinite
    period (but not, at least in the case of the House, beyond the end of the Congress) until he agrees
    to comply.
     
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    Dr. Ford testified that she wasn't raped.
     
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    Stupid is as stupid does? I'll go with Bridget's OP conclusion. Something just isn't adding up.
     
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    Sexual Harassers typically don't just stop. Memory lapses is how innocent people end up in prison.
     
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    A $500,000-$1,000,000 gofundme says otherwise.
     
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    The book and movie deals will be ten times that.

    If Kavanagh becomes the deciding vote on abortion, if Ford has stock in Corcept Therapeutics and what director doesn't, he nest egg could vaporize with Kavanagh's appointment.
     
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    Each of these accusers claimed multiple people around during the claimed assault. And none of them could find anyone to back them up. The only named witnesses disputed their claims.
     
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    Nobody is afraid of an investigation, after he's sitting in his chair in the SCOTUS, investigate away. However to use it for the sole purpose of delaying the vote will not be tolerated. The motives of the DNC are crystal clear. They said they will not vote for any of Trump's picks, so even if Brett doesn't get in, the next pick will be just as disagreeable to the DemoRATs. To right wing never Trumper's keeping the court neutral or conservative is the most important thing Trump can do to keep the Left from pushing the country further left.
     
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    Not really, four are swing votes. Corker, Collins, Flake, forget the other.
     
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    So you admit she’s messed up and crazy. That’s good. The exudes crazy. Glad you caught that.
     
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    I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if he gets confirmed both he and Trump call for an FBI investigation.
     
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    I think she is a VERY troubled woman. One thing that bothered me is that she submitted the names of 4 people who could verify her story, yet all 4 did exactly the opposite. They said they didn't know Kavanaugh or anything about Ford's story. When asked why her lifelong friend Leland Keyser didn't even back her up, she said, "Leland has significant health challenges and I’m happy that she’s focusing on herself and getting the health treatment that she needs. She let me know that she needed her lawyer to take care of this for her. She texted me right after with an apology and good wishes." If Leland knew she was telling the truth, why couldn't she write a letter saying that instead of the exact opposite? When people wrote letters attesting to her character, there were none from her parents and brother. Why? She didn't even produce the notes from her therapist. Why?
    I think she really has mental problems that need to be addressed by a psychiatrist. Something is wrong with her.
     
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    And you found this, with what piece of evidence exactly? Anyone calling for an FBI investigation, is utterly not comprehending the situation. Christine Ford is the most unqualified 'victim' of an assault, ever. She cannot give you a name of the place, she can't give you a date or a time. In fact, let me be brutal: If she really were assaulted, and if she really 'remembered' this assault, she would be able to remember something distinctive about Kavanaugh's physique(or hell, let's say Judge.) Let's say it's something you can examine only physically up close.

    I wish the prosecutor had asked that question, because it would have easily put Ford's nonsense to rest.
     
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