What should a woman do with the unprovable sexual harassment?

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What should a woman do with the unprovable sexual harassment?

  1. She should go to the police

    6 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. She should go to Human Resources

    4 vote(s)
    16.7%
  3. She should carry out an her own investigation looking for other proof.

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  4. She should voice her encounter to the community.

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  5. She should remain silent.

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  6. Other ( please explain below )

    11 vote(s)
    45.8%
  1. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Lets say you have a daughter.

    This daughter is not highly educated, is a single mother of 3 kids, and works long hours at say, a steel mill running the front office.

    She happens to be working late one night trying to get some project work due ahead of time. Just as she is getting ready to leave and lock up for the night, her Boss walks in. She is surprised to see him as she thought she was alone in the building.

    He asks her to come with him for a moment to his office. She wanted to go home, but since this is her boss, she of course follows him to his office.

    Her boss then proceeds to explain to her, that he has always found her to be very attractive, and that he sometimes masturbates to pictures of her. He then tells her that he wants her to sit in the corner of his office quietly, and if she moves, he will fire her. He suggests that her financial situation would improve if she were to show him her breasts, or even more if she agreed to get fully naked.

    He pulls out his penis and begins to masturbate. Upon climax, he takes great pains to make sure that his dna evidence doesnt get on anything like his chair or clothes, and takes great pains to clean up his mess.

    He then tells her that if she ever tells anyone about this, she will be fired, and he will press charges for defamation. This incident never repeats its self, so the ability to obtain evidence is impossible.

    This boss is a well respected member of the community. He pays his taxes. He is on the PTA, He leads a cub scout pack. He donates to local charities. Everyone likes him.


    This woman has no physical evidence of this encounter, and no witness's.

    What should she do?
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Get evidence. Get witnesses. Go to Human Resources. Go to the police if you have to. Unfortunately, someone cannot be confronted on something in which no evidence exists, otherwise it is just words against words.
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Call the police. There will be an immediate record of the accusation. If she has a smart phone, take a picture. Surely he can't jerk his gerkin and stop her from taking a picture at the same time.

    Or she could kick him in the dick and run.

    It's impossible to answer your question without knowing the person. It's all about how people respond to situations.
     
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    Turin Well-Known Member

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    For arguments sake, lets say she left her phone in her purse and doesnt have it with her.

    She kicks him in the dick and gets fired. Where will she get money to feed her kids?
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She goes to the cops, explains what happened, he has to explain the injury. He could say "But she just randomly kicked me in the dick!" but then the cops say, there's scrape marks there. Why didn't your pants protect them? Was your penis exposed? While continuing to poke holes in his story.

    That would be my guess from limited investigative experience I have.

    If he's exposed, the injuries will be much more severe than through a pair of khakis or jeans.

    Also, if she immediately calls the cops, he's going to have to PIECE together a story, while she'll be telling the real one. Once questioned, it's very likely his story would fall apart.
     
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    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Not hard at all. There is no injury officer. None at all. Shes a liar. Thanks. Have a nice day.

    Deny deny deny everything. There is no proof. Nothing happened. Deny deny deny.
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well now it's clear you were only looking for one answer.

    This is one of those threads where you ask a hypothetical, but you only will accept one version.

    What do we call those threads...? o_O
     
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    It is up to you to take a stand or not. What if you saw your boss murder someone and there is no evidence? Do the right thing
     
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    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. I am arguing from my point of view sure. But In this case, it really is simple. Just deny. Its not like the police are going to force you to pull down your pants, nor could they even do so legally if they wanted to.

    The point of the poll is simply this. There is no proof. There will never be any proof. You will never be able to physically prove anything. Ever. Which IS often the case in many sexual assaults.
     
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    Except you may not know he has 6 complaints against him already
     
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    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Based on the outline above, there can be no proof. Ever. If I go to HR, they will also ask for proof. So will the police.

    So what course of action is left open to someone in this position? IT seems to me, that society at large thinks women in these situations should just bear it as the social cost of being a woman.,
     
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    Its also next to impossible to murder someone without leaving evidence of some kind behind.
     
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    That's not true at all. Evidence is what matters. And both side's story. I've proven to you how easy it is to break the story of the accused.

    But your thread has an agenda. And for that, I'll leave you to it.
     
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    This is what she shouldn't do: Name witnesses who will say she is all wet.
     
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    No it is not. You just don't like the scenario.

    Do the right thing. Report it.
     
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    But I do not think that your method does anything here. She goes and calls the police. I flatly deny it. What happens then? Are they going to go get a search warrant to make me pull my pants down? Highly unlikely. All the accused here has to do is deny, and your method of poking a hole in his story goes flat. If I maintain there is no story to poke a hole in, what should she do at that point?
     
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    I can appreciate the sentiment. Dozens of women came forward to accuse Trump though, and he still got elected.
     
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    The police will examine your injuries and ask you questions. Maybe even interrogate you. Also, once this happens, the company could too take action.

    Once again, you're only looking for once answer. It's pointless thread because you are rejecting all other answers except the ones you BELIEVE to be right.

    Best of luck. Don't bother replying to me. I'm not biting anymore
     
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    I agree she should report it. I just dont think you can compare the two.
     
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    What injury officer? I have no injuries.

    Your just being a sore looser. Hurts to loose I know. Sorry, but thanks for your comments anyways.
     
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    Yes. he did. Still.....do the right thing. If you don't you bear a small part of the responsibility if this happens again
     
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    You may be saving someone else from this. Just do the right thing
     
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    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Also, many of those women were destroyed in the public square, and many of them received physical threats to their well being.

    Ford still has not been able to return to her home due to credible death threats
     
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    Yes they were. And that is wrong.

    Still do the right thing
     
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    She needs to be wise, weigh everything every which way for likely outcomes ultimately good and bad for her, and figure out what's best for her.

    She doesn't owe anything, not one thing, to anybody else. She and she alone decides.

    btw, I'm sorry she is in that rotten situation.
     
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