What should a woman do with the unprovable sexual harassment?

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What should a woman do with the unprovable sexual harassment?

  1. She should go to the police

    6 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. She should go to Human Resources

    4 vote(s)
    16.7%
  3. She should carry out an her own investigation looking for other proof.

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  4. She should voice her encounter to the community.

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  5. She should remain silent.

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  6. Other ( please explain below )

    11 vote(s)
    45.8%
  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She should go to the police.

    Its unlikely anything will be done, and she should find another job. But this (incredibly unlikely) scenario is one of the costs of living in a society where we're all presumed innocent until proven guilty (weighted against constantly worrying when someone who doesn't like us will ruin us with false allegations).
     
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  2. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So why do you think there's a difference? Because the woman is covered up or out of fear of radical Islam?
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Alternative facts. :)

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    This a truly ignorant point of view. A victim has a right, and a responsibility even, to protect themselves and their loved one's in any way they choose. The perpetrator of any crime, is 100% to blame for that crime. People have been destroyed for coming forward, with not much to go on, as far as proof. The justice system will chew you up and spit you out, particularly if your attacker has money/power and you don't.

    I would never dream of putting my daughter through the injustice system. Not to say that I would do nothing, but absent of much evidence, I would use other methods to ensure her assailant was exposed and sufficiently punished.
     
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    A little of both maybe? Not sure I'd say "fear", but in the same vein as your not gonna "Catcall" a nun right? Plus, there is less to show if the woman is even attractive, so less to attract unwanted attention. That would be my guess.
     
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    If they don't report a sexual assault and the person goes on to rape and assault someone else then THEY LET IT HAPPEN because of cowardice. This is no different than a mother ignoring abusive behavior of a father towards her kids because she "doesn't want to believe it" or "she was scared of what he would do to her" or "it would be to embarrassing to admit that she married a monster" The end result as that either another woman is sexually assaulted or children are beaten and abused because some *********king coward was too selfish to think beyond her own feelings and decided to look the other way while someone went around and abused other people. While she is NOT responsible for her attack she IS responsible for failure to stop future attacks if she doesn't speak up.

    I have seen this cowardly bullshit excuse from too many people, who because they were mother ****ing cowards and selfish *******s, allowed innocent people to be harmed through their silence and complicity in crimes.
     
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    I am sorry that you seem to been have personally effected, ( evidenced by the rage in your post), by a cover up of some kind. There are situations where this happens with tragic generational abuse. ( the Catholic church, for example). However I am speaking to a one off sexual assault, where the victim has no real evidence and is unlikely to see any justice, but be dragged through a degrading process that only results in further trauma and no real "justice".
     
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    It's not all about her. She has 3 children to consider, and she's the breadwinner.
     
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    She hands it over to the Police asap, and hopes like Hell that whatever State she is in has some decent employmment legislative protections.
     
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    I don't disagree that prosecuting rape is hard, which is why reporting it immediately is absolutely crucial. You can't go home and take a shower and wait a few days to think about it. According to this page you have 72 hours otherwise you lose valuable evidence. They also say that at least in that state you can not put your real name on the rape kit and delay the actual police report till you are more stable. You must.......absolutely must collect that evidence immediately no matter how "embarrassed" you might feel and since you don't have to identify yourself immediately there is absolutely no excuse to at least get evidence collected.

    http://www.juneaupolice.com/viewindividualdispatch.php?UID=268
     
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    Good information to have. However the tread topic is: "
    "What should a woman do with the unprovable sexual harassment", not rape.
     
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    Record it. They literally have apps that start recording voice as soon as its detected so if she has an issue with some guy then record him harassing her. Other than that your **** out of luck unless you can show a pattern of behavior with other employees as well.

    Guys like this simply cannot help themselves and more often than not they are going to harass more than just one person at work.
     
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    How should ANY unprovable accusation be handled?
     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    You've been watching too much television Not every cop is Columbo, not every crime "lab" is NCIS

    The vast majority of criminals are caught because they have the intellect of a rutabaga and are drunk besides. If you're smart enough to be a criminal "mastermind" you go into politics

    As to your scenario why doesn't she run screaming? What's he going to do? chase her down with his pants around his ankles?.

    After she gets away she should go to HR AND the Police, Either one or both of them are well within their legal rights to set up "stings" designed to capture him at no risk to her
     
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    The same thing you do when your son gets murdered by a Bernie supporter and you can't prove who did it.
     
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    Is that scenario a past or future episode of "Law and Order SVU"?
     
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    I have little doubt some NYers catcall nuns. :)
     
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    Yet another idiotic remark. Thanks for your non contribution.
     
  19. MAGA

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    If you thought that was stupid you should have read the initial post.
     
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    She should film it.

    It's not that ****ing hard to get evidence if you are being abused.
     
  21. TrackerSam

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    For arguments sake lets say she finds a better paying job the next day. Your questions are designed to elicit only the answers you want. Better yet, she should wait 36 years before saying anything to anyone and list 4 possible witnesses who fail to corroborate her story.
    And you think she should stay and work there like some battered woman. How progressive of you.
     
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    Dozens of women came forward to accuse Bill Clinton of actual rape and he still got elected. Ted Kennedy killed a woman and was rewarded with a lifetime seat on the senate.
     
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    This would not have been the first time this boss of hers has harassed a woman so there would be other reports from other women. It wouldn't be he said she said. It would be he said they said, like with Bill Clinton. Your little scenario has easily fallen apart.
     
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    Oh ya? How do you know that? There is after all a first time for everything. Maybe it WAS his first time. Maybe there were other victims, but he was able to threaten them enough they didnt report it.

    Either way, your statement about this falling about, is pure BS. Its a perfectly valid situation. I know that, because I modeled this after something that happened IRL to my own mother.
     
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    I love how the woman just stood there and let him do all this stuff in your scenario.

    You want to know how to address this, I'll tell you how.

    As soon as "i've always found you to be attractive" comes out of his mouth, you turn and walk away. The next day you go to HR and lodge a complaint.

    Then you make sure you are never alone with the person. Then you find a new job and let everyone else who works there know why.

    If you work for a boss stupid enough to do this to one person, they've done it to others, or will do it again.

    People who like to sexually assault others, both male and female, don't do it one time then stop.
     

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