Democrats & liberals are NOT the left, nor are they socialists, communists or anarchists. They are the OTHER conservatives, cheerleading endless war and corporate hegemony. Another member's "sign off". Just happened to read it. Agree ? Disagree? discuss. Moi Stop Creeping ism Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
It depends on where you define the center. If you define the center as just left of Lenin then indeed democrats are right wing conservatives. But few would define it that way
It ain't a NeoCon, that's for sure. Agree? A Real Conservative Senator Rand Paul, M.D. seems like the only conservative I can think of off hand. How about you? Although I do prefer his father. "Let them fail" Ron Paul, M.D. Who is conservative today, in your book? Trump does not count. Besides he didn't withdraw from Afghanistan as promised. Why doesn't Trump count? Because I called it Moi MAGA Support the Dual Wall Solution and make pay for theirs
Vegas giants I sure wish occasionally you would declare something in your numerous uploads. No one likes a Socrates in their time. And you are not Socrates. Thank you for your consideration. Argue you do and have the last word. ttfn
Rand is a Libertarian, not a Conservative. I agree with Rand 95% of the time, but the other 5 are dangerous. Trump is certainly not a conservative, but he's closer than we've had for some time. Supporting meaningless wars is not conservative. Supporting wars that keep Americans and America's allies safe is.
Case in point. Liberals - who are extremely conservative - express their disdain for, and deliberate misunderstanding of, the modern left's politics by likening them to Leninism. It is in fact liberals - who are now well to the right of Reagan - who have become no more than the OTHER right wing supporters of perpetual war and corporate hegemony. Liberals are not remotely of the left.
It's hard to say whether this is true or not, due to the fact that the very definition of liberal is routinely abused. At least in America. In my mind, the modern donkey party is in no way liberal (according to the original definition)
Correct; the dividing line was the mortgaging of the party to the reptilian Clintons. Prior to this, the Democrats were much more classically liberal, though monsters like Truman and LBJ were some of the worst war criminals in human history, and FDR of course a fascist, though a "good" one by the standard of the time. Keep in mind, of course, that FDR-style liberalism was a sop to rising popular dalliance with leftist ideology in the wake of the economic crises of the late 20s and early 30s. FDR was quite literally a liberal fascist & warmonger, but still well to the left (policy-wise) of recent conservative Democrats like empty-suit Obama and the aforementioned reptilian psychopath (Hillary) Clinton.
seems the meaning has been lost... whether one is considered 'left' or 'right' has to do with the seating arrangements in congress, simple as that... one could be a conservative dem, a liberal dem, a conservative repub, a liberal repub or anything else they wish to align themselves as... perhaps we should force a new seating arrangement filling every other seat with the 'other side', co-mingling them, thereby preventing cliques during sessions...
Can't argue with that. What I find mind-bending is this: when the USA was getting started, we had the Democratic Republican Party (the party of Jefferson). Now, we have the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. This country was founded on liberal values. The Dems claim to uphold liberal values. The Reps claim to be conservative. Conserve what? Why, the values this country was founded upon (i.e. liberal values).
I am running into some evidence for this just a few days ago actually.......... Hillary....... really was setting things up for WWIII...........