Israel pushes U.S. to War ........Again

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    LOL, that's all Zionists can do when someone exposes their crimes: they attack the person and speculate about his background. This extremely dishonest approach only incites even more hatred against so-called "Israel".

    Zionists are the real bad guys. No one else. "Israel" is definitely a threat to the US.

    Some call the Trump Administration ZOG, "Zionist Occupied Government". And surely it is. The money the US spends to keep the Zionist colony alive is proof enough.
     
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    She is not Jewish, but she lives in Switzerland, where she also pays taxes. Obviously, citizens of other countries may be chairs of German parties. It always sounds very strange to me when Weidel talks about the German people.
     
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    Thanks for so clearly articulating 3 realities that expose the true nature of today's Right Wing Israeli regime, its danger to America's best interests, success of its voracious lobbies and the machinations of Israel's paid, trained & scripted Hasbara apologists.(1), (2)

    I'm not suggesting that everyone who attempts to rationalize or deny Israel's Right Wing Zionist criminality is paid, trained & scripted but many are as Israel's Hasbara army spends more time, US money & effort in obfuscating Israel's criminal acts, censoring Western MSM, perverting Wikipedia, slandering opponents & training Internet Trolls than any other country in the world.

    You'll find the Hasbara scripts to excusing the inexcusable & blaming Iran for everything in the 116 page Hasbara Handbook aka "The Global Language Dictionary" produced by T.I.P. (The Israel Project).
    Among the more comprehensive articles explaining the contents of "The Global Language Dictionary" is(3).

    You'll immediately recognize some of the lame rationalizations used by Israel's paid, trained & scripted apologists for stealing land, massacring unarmed civilians & demonizing Iran in this same slick document.

    There is no other country in the world that spends so much effort & resources in obfuscating its crimes & atrocities or so badly needs to.




    (1) "Jonathon Blakeley: A guide to Hasbara trolls"
    https://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/jonathon-blakeley-a-guide-to-hasbara-trolls.html


    (2) "How Israel and its partisans work to censor the Internet"
    https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-partisans-work-censor-internet/

    EXCERPT "As it turns out, Israel and Israeli institutions employ armies of Internet warriors—from Israeli soldiers to students—to spread propaganda online and try to get content banned that Israel doesn’t want seen.

    Israel and partisans of Israel have long had a significant presence on the Internet, working to promote the Israel narrative and block facts about Palestine, the Israel lobby, and other subject matter they wish covered up.

    In addition to these, however, a number of orchestrated, often well-funded projects sponsored by the Israeli government and others have come to light. These projects work to place pro-Israel content throughout the Internet, and to remove information Israel doesn’t wish people to know.

    Under this program, Israeli students are paid $2,000 to work five hours per week to “lead the battle against hostile websites.”

    Campaign to infiltrate Wikipedia

    CAMERA called for volunteers to secretly work on editing Wikipedia entries. It emphasized the importance of keeping the project secret. Volunteers were schooled in ways to elude detection. After they signed up as editors, they were to “avoid editing Israel-related articles for a short period of time.”CONTINUED


    (3)"The Israel Project’s Secret Hasbara Handbook Exposed"
    https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2009/07/10/the-israel-projects-secret-hasbara-handbook-exposed/

     
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    Take a look at this link. She may not be Jewish, but likely is...

    The AfD leader Alice Weidel worked for Goldman Sachs.

    She is openly gay, and has two sons.

    She is apparently of Jewish origin.

    She is the leader of Germany's 'Neo-Nazi' party, called the AfD.

    The lesbian Alice Weidel is "the public face of a party whose manifesto enshrines the 'traditional family' made up of 'a father, mother and children' as the 'guiding principle' for society."

    The AfD has its own gay group.

    Read much more here:
    http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2017/05/neo-nazi-partys-lesbian-boss-alice.html
    ------
    One has to believe in Santa Claus, if one believes the Jews are not involved in German and/or Austrian politics!
     
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    That's right. But they do this in a very silly and easy-to-view dumb way that everyone immediately noticed that they feign and lie. That scares me the most.

    Not how Zionists commit crimes, but how they deny it. It's unbelievable how much criminal energy they have. The Nazis were amateurs comparing to that.
     
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    However, that doesn't really matter. Most Jews are decent people. Only Zionists (jewish nationalists) are criminal minded. I know some Jews who are very sad about Israeli politics and how it fuels anti-Semitism.
     
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    Good for you to know such people.
    I went to the web and searched for the Khazarian people whom I suspect to be the trouble makers. And sure enough:

    Zionist (Khazarian Jews) Historical Claim to Israel is Unfounded.


    "The home to which so many other Ashkenazim Zionists have yearned to return has most likely never been theirs...many Christians may have much more Hebrew-'Israelite' blood in their veins than most of their Jewish neighbors."
    Much about organized Jewry is a fraud.
    God's "chosen people" actually have sought to displace Him.
    The Cabala, their most revered book, is a hoax.
    Similarly, as Alfred Lillienthal explained in this key 1953 essay, their claim to Israel is yet another ruse.
    Zionism and the NWO are partly a recrudescence of Khazar imperialism. (See also Benjamin Friedman, below)
    --
    "... the large majority of surviving Jews are of Eastern European origin, and thus perhaps mainly of Khazar origin... their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga, not from Canaan, but from the Caucasus... and that genetically they are more closely related to the Hun, Uigur and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob." (Arthur Koestler, The Thirteenth Tribe, 1967, p. 17).


    Read on here:
    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/zionistisraelclaimunfounded15mar13.shtml

    Further...
    Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine

    https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/lea...secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/
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    Watch out Putin, they want Crimea and the Black Sea!!
    I can't imagine they would give up Palestine. Most likely they would divide themselves and claim both locations.
    I wonder, how much "Jewish" blood I have running through my veins!!! :hmm: :worry:
     
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    Fail.
    Jews fled the mid-east, mostly from the 7th to the 12th century, toward eastern Europe, where they merged with the Kazzars, a mongoloid type People. Here they took Kazzar wives, and began a DNA strain.
    Mitochondrial DNA goes through the female.
     
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    You're right in that the lies endlessly regurgitated by Zionist Hasbara agents are transparent & simple but like most lies, when repeated over & over, they are more readily believed by the gullible dupes who later parrot them, unthinkingly.

    Among the more durable & common lies frequently espoused by Hasbara disinformation agents are:

    Hasbara lie #1. "Iran is the number 1 sponsor of terrorism in the world."

    Fact: The US, Israel, the Saudis and many more sponsor terrorist groups far more savage than Hezbollah which spends about half of its budget on social services & humanitarian aid.

    Hasbara lie #2. "Iran threatened to wipe Israel from the face of the world."

    Fact: This deliberate mistranslation from Farsi remains widely believed in spite of being proven false(1).

    Hasbara Lie #3 "Israel is the only democracy in the entire region."

    Fact: Israel is an Apartheid theocracy that relegates non Jews to an inferior status while many of those under Israeli rule are denied the right to vote.

    Hasbara lie #4. "Israel wants peace."

    Fact: If Israel really wanted peace, it would cease its relentless & provocative illegal Settlement sprawl.
    In fact, Israel's Right Wing government prefers an ongoing conflict that allows zealous Zionists frequent opportunities to "mow the lawn" & steal more land.

    Hasbara lie #5 "Israel is America's staunch ally."

    Fact: Allies do not repeatedly attack other allies, steal top secret military intel., sell it to the highest bidder & thanklessly extort $ Trillions.
    Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”

    http://web.archive.org/web/20060512...pecial_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html

    It is also a simple fact that Israel has the most extensive, costly & widely disseminated Propaganda Industry (aka Hasbara network) in the world that trains, scripts & pays Hasbara Trolls $400- per hour (5 hours per week) to regurgitate slick deceptions & phony platitudes for those gullible enough to believe them.

    Regrettably, America's pro Israel - anti Islamic MSM is complicit in reciting the same Hasbara falsehoods to the millions of unthinking Americans who lack any sense of critical literacy or knowledge of the region.

    For example, America's MSM was so completely complicit in selling the War on Iraq quietly pushed by AIPAC(2) that out of the approximately 85% Americans so eager to attack Iraq, only about 3% of those same pro war Americans could find Iraq on a map.

    Now, the same Israeli lobbies who were so "quietly successful" in driving America to war with Iraq under false pretenses are busily pushing America to war with a country whose "crime" is acting as a deterrent against Israeli regional hegemony and attempts at regional regime change.

    Re:
    Yes, the Zionists seem full of criminal energy when it comes to enforcing the world's oldest, most brutal & murderous foreign funded Occupation in history but they can now relax since they have Americans on Israeli soil to die for Israel.

    Thanks...


    (1) "Israeli Minister Agrees Ahmadinejad Never Said Israel ‘Must Be Wiped Off the Map’"
    https://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2...r-said-israel-must-be-wiped-off-the-map/?_r=0


    (2) “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003


    (3) "US Commander: ‘US Troops Prepared to Die for Israel’ in War against Syria, Hezbollah"
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/israe...a-harbinger-of-war-on-syria-hezbollah/238768/


     
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    Do they now all look like you????
     
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    Not quite so fast there.

    What I believe is the most recent genetic study concludes that Ashkenazi Jews have their ancestry in pre Historic Europe.(1)

    Meanwhile, the DNA of the Canaanites who either intermarried with the ancient Hebrew invaders or survived the Hebrew massacre is found in today's modern Lebanese DNA (2)

    Consequently, Palestine is not the "Jewish homeland" as is alleged in Ancient Hebrew mythology.


    (1) "A substantial prehistoric European ancestry amongst Ashkenazi maternal lineages"
    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

    EXCERPT " Here we show that all four major founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders share a similar deep European ancestry. Thus the great majority of Ashkenazi maternal lineages were not brought from the Levant, as commonly supposed, nor recruited in the Caucasus, as sometimes suggested, but assimilated within Europe."CONTINUED


    (2) "Bible says Canaanites were wiped out by Israelites but scientists just found their descendants living in Lebanon"
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...cendants-discovered-science-dna-a7862936.html

    EXCERPT "For God had ordered the Israelites to slaughter the apparently sinful Canaanites, saying: “You shall not leave alive anything that breathes. But you shall utterly destroy them.” And, according to a passage in the Old Testament's Book of Joshua, they did just that:

    “Thus Joshua struck all the land, the hill country and the Negev and the lowland and the slopes and all their kings. He left no survivor, but he utterly destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded…. He left nothing undone of all that the Lord had commanded Moses.” (Joshua. 10:40, 11:15)

    However, a new genetic study has found that the Canaanites actually managed to survive this purge of their traditional homeland, passing on their DNA over the centuries to their numerous descendants in modern-day Lebanon."CONTINUED
     
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    Good point, they don't look mongoloid, so it looks like their DNA was overwhelmed.
     
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    and this is 12th century.
     
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    ...by pigs??
     
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    Please clarify your point.
     
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    most recent genetic study concludes that Ashkenazi Jews have their ancestry in pre Historic Europe.

    When is this dated.
     
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    A discovery doesn't have to happen but one time in order to establish a fact.
    The article was printed in October of 2013 so I assure that the study was completed that year.

    Do you have a more recent study that attempts to refute it?


    "Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European"
    https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
    EXCERPT "The origin of the Ashkenazi Jews, who come most recently from Europe, has largely been shrouded in mystery. But a new study suggests that at least their maternal lineage may derive largely from Europe.

    Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago."CONTINUED
     
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    lolololo

    You don't ever read these do you.
    Just the title, which leads to believe they are European.
     
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    You will note that I also included part of the text from the same article I cited in Post #93 & you are unable to refute.
     
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    yasureoktoo is still a first year apprentice in the Hasbara agency. He/she no nothin!:smoking:
     
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    I wonder why Zionists need racism to turn Jews into a special group. Isn't religion and Jewish culture enough?

    They should have learned what racism does, when they look at the history of their ancestors from Europe. But they obviously did not.
     
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    How quickly & easily the persecuted eagerly assume the role of persecutors.

    I assume that you are referring to Israel's revised, racist "Nationality Law" that relegates Palestine's native residents & other non Jews to an inferior status(1).

    I'm afraid that Israel's Right Wing element knows very well what institutionalized racism can lead to as Israel moves more & more to the extreme right.
    Since a known result of such an inflammatory is the incitement of more Palestinian demonstrations, such unnecessary & repressive laws are simply an extension of Israel's "Provoke-then-Massacre" M.O. by which Israel has carried out its ethnic cleansing agenda for decades.

    "Moshe Dayan, in his diaries said: "Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them."
    http://www.sott.net/signs/signs154.htm

    In other words Israel's Right Wing element knows that such racist laws will provoke demonstrations by which Israel can steal more land and build more illegal & provocative Settlements & kill unarmed, non Jewish protestors when they demonstrate against this & other provocations.

    Why does Israel pass such blatantly racist laws & engage in internationally condemned land theft & ethnic cleansing?
    Because it knows that powerful Israeli lobbies ensure that Israel will continue to receive $ Trillions in "aid" & unconditional support from the US regardless of the crimes its government commits.

    No successful American politician goes against the wishes of the 52 major Israeli lobbies that effectively dominate US Policy.

    (1) "Israel approves controversial Jewish nationality law"
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...ontroversial-jewish-nationality-law-1.3570017
    EXCERPTS "The Bill, pushed through by the right-wing and religious coalition, definesIsrael as the nation-state of the Jewish people. The measure sets “the development of Jewish settlements nationwide as a national priority” and downgrades the status of Arabic from an official language to one with “special status”.
    “The result of this legislation will be to perpetuate the inferior status of the Arabs in Israel.”CONTINUED


    (2) “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

    EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.
    A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions.

    The Encyclopaedia Britannica describes the act as “attempting to create ethnically homogeneous geographic areas through the deportation or forcible displacement of persons belonging to particular ethnic group”, while a United Nations report in 1993 additionally specified the use of “force or intimidation”.CONTINUED
     
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    I refer to "Israel" as it is today. They started up in 1948 with massacres and expulsion of the natives of Palestine. Since then they have been lying and betraying the world and showing themselves to be the good guys and the Palestinians as barbarians and terrorists.

    Such behavior is totally unacceptable nowadays. It comes from the time of European colonialism.

    I think that the project "Israel" can be considered failed.
     
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    If the "Israel project" is not "failed", it is certainly seriously endangered.

    It is especially tragic because Israel has so much going for it and has the dubious distinction of being the most heavily subsidized country on the face of the earth.
    However, I feel that unconditional US aid to Israel is detrimental to both countries in that it rewards Israel's criminal Right Wing & undermines Israel's peace seeking element.
    Briefly put, Israel has absolutely no incentive to seek peace when it is generously rewarded by the US Government for its ethnic cleansing, violations of International Law, acts of aggression and relentless expansionism (i.e Settlements").

    Apologists for Israel's Right Wing criminality continuously ask: "What would you do if people fired rockets at you?" but ignore the reality that those "people" are Palestine's native residents & are simply resisting the oldest & most murderous foreign funded occupation in recorded history.

    Yes, through Israel's extensive PR / Hasbara Industry, its army of trained, paid & scripted Hasbara Trolls and a complicit MSM, Palestine's native residents have, indeed, been miscast as sub-human "barbarians and terrorists" while the violent & ever encroaching, militant Israeli Settlers are cast as hapless victims whose neighbors torment them for no reason.

    Meanwhile, no matter how frequently I ask members of Israel's army of Hasbara apologists, I have yet to hear of ANY native population that has not resisted a brutal, foreign invasion - Occupation.

    Thanks
     
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