So now Bitch McConnell is saying cut spending.

I think the GOP has had a long standing battle against Social Security since the 1930's and against Medicare since the 1960's.

They are just using this as an excuse.

They do not have a super majority so they cannot push this through.

And after January they probably won't have control of the U.S. House either anymore.

 

Answer the question

Do you not know the budget numbers already?

 

That surplus currently represents future payments to people who are working today and who will eventually retire and comes from money taken out of our paychecks. If Republicans spent that entire surplus then at some point in (I presume) the very near future, nobody would get a Social Security check. For many American seniors, this is the only retirement income that they have. The more Republicans are able to take out of that surplus, the lower everyone's Social Security check will be in the future. If you're working today and are OK with Republicans taking money out of your retirement savings while at the same time giving large tax breaks to Corporations, Wall Street Executives and the Ultra Wealthy then this won't be an issue for you. Personally, I'm not OK with money I worked for and that was taken out of my paycheck without any say by me, being used to off set tax breaks being given to Wall Street and the Super Rich. I don't object to that money being taken out of my check and being invested on my behalf to be paid back to me when I'm elderly. I do object to that money being taken from me by Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio at the same time they give tax breaks to their Wall Street campaign donors.

And guys like Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan make absolutely no secret that this is their agenda. This isn't some conspiracy that Dems are accusing them of, this is their plan that they have talked about repeatedly in interviews, including the one I linked earlier in this thread.

 

I'm not sure that ten percent is minor, but either way, Rubio and Ryan want to take money out of Social Security to offset at least some of that. If I understand you correctly, you're not OK with them doing so(?).

 

Ryan is not running for reelection and rubio does not write budgets

But if we want to balance the budget social security will have to be reformed as it applies to future retirees

 

So according to the Joint Committee on Taxation, even after accounting for the resulting stimulus to the economy, we just added a Trillion Dollars to our deficit over ten years for a tax break.

 

The tax cuts that were just passed ARE the “spending” spending you refer to.

 

They dont want to “slash funding” for SS and Medicare, they want to steal money FROM it. SS and Medicare are funded separately, and both are solvent at this time.

 

OK, then lets cut those subsidies to Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and all the other military contractors ?

Better yet, lets cut the subsidies to FoxxCon, Walmart, and all those other large companies so that they can compete, instead of having Americans pay them for doing nothing ?

 

No

Because the money was never governments in the first place

Whatever government takes in is all it should be allowed to spend

 

I dont think military contractors are getting unearned money from the federal government

Nor do I think its wise to bite the hand that defends us

 

I wonder if the liberals complained in 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 when Obama's federal deficit was well over one trillion dollars annually? Well more than double the annual deficit of any previous year in the entire history of this country!!!

Did they call Obama bitch then?

How do we spell Hypocrites? That's right - D E M O C R A T!

 

You mean the years when we were still borrowing money to fight the stupid wars that W marched us in to while borrowing more money avoiding a second great depression directly after the financial collapse that happened about 7 and half years in to W's 8 year run? Those years?

 

Fake Post.Ignorant post.

The socialist Kenyan pig incurred more debts than all other president combined. Where were you then.

To say that tax revenue has been killed is a bald faced lie and a stupid one at that. Jobs are being created, more and more people are going back to work, and that means more and more revenue is coming in every day and that will soon pay for the tax cuts.

You have been refuted. Crawl back into your little socialist hole.

The wars that Democrats voted for you mean? In fact, Obama sent troops into more countries than any other president. Bush only responded to 9/11

Another Democrat fake post

 

Clinton, bush and obama were all bad baby boomer presidents

America went downhill fast when the hippy generation came to power

 

No it doesnt. The “surplus” is actually not a “surplus”. It was a fund, created to account for the baby’s boomers, and then once the baby boomers started dying, SS would be back to its self funded (pay as you go)design. The problem was that our legislators decided that since there was money in that superfund (designed ot be used later), that they could use that money to fund pet projects for their states, and donors now. It was that legislation that hurt the long term prospects of the program. Now with that said, almost every economist who has studied the program says that it is back on the proper path, and IS solvent for many years to come. What the right wants to do is kill the program, and then claim “look at the tax break we gave you”, and then tell you that you should invest your retirement money in the “private sector”. The problem with that is that the same dollar provided to SS, would be worth less than 50 cents in private sector plans.

If you don’t see whats going on here, your not paying attention. Medicare, Medicare, and SS are NOT entitlements. I am paying for them. I’m in my 50’s, and have been paying SS since I was 15. If you think I’m going to sit back and watch Mitch McConnel, Rubio, and Ryan in any way lower my benefits for something I have already paid for, your sorely mistaken.

The next time you hear one of those turds, (McConnell, Ryan, Rubio) scream about how “bad government is”, remember, THEY are the government. If its so bad, then its THEM that is making it bad.

 

What a shocker! These guys even say they are going to do this...until they campaign. Then, they say they aren't. Then, they get elected, and make every effort to do exactly this. Murrica!

 

You read the TOS? This thread does not meet the requirements.

 

From another thread about a supposed Antifa protester:

I like how some guy in Portland who may identify as Antifa somehow represents the Left, but Senator Rubio and Speaker of The House Paul Ryan somehow don't represent the Republican Party.

 

Ofcourse that's lead to rising tax revenue just like we told you it would, now deal with the spending and deficit goes down. Really simple for most to understand.

 

Except that is utterly false. But you will continue to say it anyway, so not much point in pointing it out.

 

From a quote posted upthread: "the Trump tax cut will reduce revenue. It's reducing the personal income tax rate, corporate taxes, and small business taxes. These cuts total $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years. But the Joint Committee on Taxation said the cuts will stimulate growth by 0.7 percent annually. The increased growth will add revenue, offsetting some of the tax cuts. As a result, the deficit will increase $1 trillion over the next decade"

If a $1.5T tax cut generates a $.5T boost, then... I mean...

 

We've gone over this, 2017 was the lowest jobs gains in 7 years. We could have elected a potato and had the lowest jobs gains in 7 years, and we certainly didn't need a tax cut to corporations to hire less people than in any of the 6 years previous.

At 1:10 W is asked what Iraq had to do with the attack on the world trade center and he responds 'nothing'. Your post is another Republican fake post. I wonder if you believe the Great Recession happened, or is that also a fake Dem conspiracy?

 

I’m just pointing out the fact that that is how the CBO accounts for it.