French Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson dies at 89

No gassings?

 

Are you saying you Americans are more civilized? I guess you never heard of Eisenhower's Rhine Meadow massacres.

Lest you forget...



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Just reminding you of your own atrocities.



http://asheepnomore.net/2015/02/08/holocaust-faked/

 

That is due to them being in control of the media and the movie industry. The lies can be spread across the world indiscriminately.

 

Yes, Eisenhower is more civilized than Stalin.
Solzhenitzen claimed 66,000,000 were murdered by the Communists,
though the normal figure is closer to a third of that.
Mao certainly killed closer to a hundred million.

If you can kill between 10 and 25% of your population in class warfare
then you are a good Communist. No American achieved anything
remotely similar to this of his own people.

 

The killed include gassings. Always have.

 

Get over it. It's history.
And it was common in history - by Arabs, Crusaders, Catholics, Russians, Poles and Germans.
And there are people today who wish to kill EVERY Jew.

 

I would just prefer to deport them all unharmed and in good health safely to Israel cutting all funding in terms of financial aid letting them sort their differences out with the Palestinians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians, Turks, Iraqis, Lebanese, and Iranians.

They all believe religiously that the messiah is coming eventually in Israel anyways, would my ideal be an aiding accessory to fulfilling their religious prophecy?

It is said that the Jews will face a major calamity or crisis and at the moment they all inhabit the holy land the messiah will appear after all.

Win-win, right? Everybody goes home happy.

 

Have you ever stopped and thought through your accusation against the German people?
I lived in Germany throughout the war and beyond and have never heard about Jews being gassed, or annihilated in any other way, neither did my parents. Sure, we heard of Jews being gathered in concentration camps, but not until1943 or 44.
Now, as an older woman with access to the internet for information, I have often wondered how it was possible to massacre 6 to 11 million people without us noticing? How was it done? O.k., by gassing, they say, and then cremating the bodies which leaves only ashes. An impossible task experts say! But that was what we were told by our occupiers. I guess, nobody questioned that as we all had enough other urgent dilemmas to deal with, the refugees from the East were priority #1. The clean-up of our cities and ditches along the roadways, which were littered with burned-out army vehicles and dead soldiers, hastily covered with dirt. They were probably the last casualties of low-flying enemy aircraft.
Our school was packed with refugees and straw.
We sure had enough to do and no time to wonder about the Jews.

Now it is 73 years later and I am finally debating the so called Holocaust with Hasbara youngster!!

How the “Holocaust” was Faked

The alleged “Holocaust” of “6 million Jews” at the hands of Adolf Hitler and National Socialist Germany during WWII is the biggest lie ever foisted upon humanity.
The very idea that the Germans organized and executed a complex conspiracy involving “homicidal gas chambers” and other barbaric, sadistic forms of mass murder designed to exterminate European Jewry during WWII is laughable on its face when you stop and objectively think about it.
National Socialist Germany and her allies were fighting a multi-front war against some of the most powerful nations in the world at the time, including the United States, the British Empire, and the Soviet Union. The idea that they would divert their precious and extremely scarce resources and manpower towards implementing a systematic campaign of mass murder specifically designed to annihilate European Jewry is absurd.

read on here:
http://asheepnomore.net/2015/02/08/holocaust-faked/
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Even without worrying about the Jews or Roma or what have you, how could we even manage 5 years fighting 3 formidable empires??
Well, we didn't start out that way. We thought after having taught the Poles a lesson, we would be done.
Lesson to be learned: Don't even start a tiny fire! It can, and usually will, get out of hand.
I truly wish we could finally come to rest and establish the truth of the holocaust... Did we, the Germans, gas, burn, shoot, strangle or drown 6 million Jews or not?
I know, the German government says YES, we did and we are sorry and will do whatever it takes to right this wrong.
Individual Germans have paid with torture and losing their life for this crime.
Collectively we have paid a ton of money to the Jewish Claims Collection Agency.
Our Government has also made generous gifts to Israel and has helped the Israelis to get settled in their new country. Israel is now the fourth strongest military force in the world!!
I don't begrudge them their wealth and good life. Just to know the truth would be nice. But, you say, the truth is there, just accept it, Jazz! Yes, o.k., I'll think about it...

 

Watch out!!! Communists and Zionists are one and the same people. Hitler fought them both. Germany before Hitler was about to be taken over by the Communists, just like they took over in Russia.
The Zionists have already taken over the USA. Sharon: "We control America, and the American people know that!"

 

Funny my father's family got out of berlin months before the war started. They were already rounding up the jews. And you didn't hear about hte gassings as a young kid because the gassing took place in POLAND. But my relatives who stayed - the non jewish side of the family, all heard the whispers and rumors of what was the fate of the jews being "transported to the east".

Six million jews were not murdered. Six million jews died in the conflict. Directly and deliberately murdered as in shot or gassed or worked to death, is around a couple million. The rest thru disease, starvation, and "collateral" damage.

Holocaust deniers - those pinheads who deny the existence of an organized operation to exterminate the jews and other undesirables by the nazis (not all germans) are in the same category of the poor souls who think the earth is flat.

 

Aw, Poobear, leave me a little fun! Life is boring without teasing and flirting and joking.

 

Another death notice that put a smile on my face, first Zundel, now Faurisson . Soon all the scumbags will be in the ground.

 

As I speak Wallstreet is in a sea of red and the economy is tanking. I'm thinking about buying a bottle of wine to toast in celebration going to the liquor store in a few minutes.

Very soon banks like Goldman Sachs will go completely under and the United States will no longer be able to give billions of dollars, defense, or military weapons to Israel anymore.

I'm so happy and smug with myself right now I feel like a kid given a unicorn on Christmas day. I will sleep very well tonight.

 

Coming in late, but I've often wondered how these denyers can make their bizarre assertion when there's so much visual record of the concentration and death camps. Are they suggesting it was all staged???

 

Oh Boy... another winner!!!

The Wannsee Conference: Another Lie Crushed
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Yes, this is a lie. An outright, shameless, blatant lie.

The actual minutes of the Wannsee Conference can be read in their entirety in the original German here,


In reality, the Wannsee meeting and its minutes do not contain a master plan to kill Jews;


– Nowhere in the meeting’s minutes is genocide discussed, planned, proposed, or even suggested;


– The Wannsee meeting never discussed gas chambers, shootings, or any of the fantasies propagated by the exterminationists;


– The Wannsee Minutes reported that there were only 4.5 million Jews under German control (yet 4.3 million Jewish compensation claims have been lodged against the postwar German government);


– The Wannsee meeting was a planning meeting on how Europe’s Jews should be deported, via transit camps, to the East; with able-bodied Jews being forced to build roads and other labor intensive tasks in those regions;


– The Wannsee Conference also made allowance for specific exceptions to Jewish evacuation, such as Jewish German World War I veterans; ALL Jews over the age of 65; and ALL Jews working in industries vital to the German war effort, to be released from the threat of evacuation and be allowed to stay in Germany.


There is therefore, no justification for the allegation that the Wannsee Conference was a ‘master plan for mass murder’ and everyone who claims this to be the case, from Netanyahu down, is simply lying.
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Read more here:
https://barnesreview.org/the-wannsee-conference-another-lie-crushed/
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Thanks for reminding me of this meeting, Badaboom!! You are worth something!

 

Sweet dreams!

 

No it isn't. I think it may be true that it was only once Israel got interested in the holocaust that it became a big thing and I am sure there are many reasons for this. I however was told about this with particular reference to Jews rather than anyone else being kept in camps with the intent on killing them all when I was 3 or 4 by a baby sitter. I was shocked and asked why. She said 'well everyone always hated the Jews anyway'. I asked why. She seemed a bit awkward and then said 'I don't know. possibly because they were money lenders'. The effect it had on me and my life was massive. It completely took away my security. Prior to this I had thought adults had learned how to be good people and live well. I had thought that childhood was about learning how to be like that. Now I had discovered they could instead be the worst of the worst. I can remember lying in bed night upon night thinking about this and what it meant.

Now the holocaust was not a big thing in my childhood as I imagine it was not in yours in Canada. It was something which I was always aware of and I am imagining it was something which people certainly recognised and spoke about as I never felt alone in my knowledge. When we got to Higher History I imagined it would be spoken of more and it certainly was included though not to a great extent. It was only when I came to online forums that I discovered people now got classes on it at school.

Perhaps it was not considered so necessary to have classes on it when people were around with memory talking about it as in my childhood. People have argued that it should be taught including all those who were subject to it as well as similar acts of inhumanity and that is a perfectly valid argument....but it is not an argument that it did not happen.

 

God will place that good man in heaven for telling the truth.

 

You're basically saying that all Holocaust survivors, including non-Jews, the British, the Americans, the Russians, the Nazis themselves - not only lied about everything, but all told the same lies. Millions - most of whom never met, or communicated with each other - cooperated to create one big lie, only to make Germany pay a lot of money to Jews. My eyes are moist with tears of joy and my heart warm and fuzzy at the thought of all those dear selfless people who cherished my people so much as to put Jews above everyone and everything else. Bless them all.

Eisenhower, "Crusade in Europe":

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.208955/page/n486

Let me guess: Jews made him write this.

 

I am old enough to remember some of the personal stories from
Jewish friends. If you were born in the late forties or early fifties
in my country there were plenty of European Jews, or their children,
who would relate stories. Absolutely sad were how many had lost
their entire families.

 

I'm sorry but I have to end our conversation here. You seem to believe that the world owes you a personnal explanation for what happened, one tailored to fit your standard of proof which are so high as to make it impossible to prove anything. This is either quite sad or frankly dishonest.

So I'm sorry but I'll have to ignore you from now on.

 

So now Jazz, Grau and Upside-Down-Cake have the honors of joining my ever growing list of ignored peoples. Life's too short to waste it.

 

This has largely happened. The return of the Jews to Israel was openly
mocked in the late 1800's when Zionism began. But that was biblical -
in the latter days God would bring His people out of all nations that had
been their "graves" and with the sword take back their land - and rebuild
it.
The 1948 war showed the determination of other nations that the Jews
would have no support. And in the 1967 even America did not take a
stand against Egypt blocking Israeli shipping - thus triggering that war.

Those wars are marvelous to read.

I marvel that in some instances Israel has not only been able to become
self-sufficient in armaments, but an exporter as well.

 

I have read many well written attempts to elevate the European, WW2 era holocaust to a special or "different" status but they all have a slightly racist ring to them.
If the architects of what Norman Finkelstein called "The Holocaust Industry" considered the Roma victims equal to Jewish victims, they would have been included in the multi-billion dollar reparations payoff that remains rife with greed & fraud.(3)

I'm afraid you're basing your assertions on the flawed premise that: "Jews and Roma can't change who they are." and that all Jews and Roma were persecuted in National Socialist Germany as about 2 million non Aryan / non German Slavs, Franks, Muslims, Jews & others served in Germany's WW2 military(1) including the 150,000 Jews who served and rose to the highest ranks while receiving Germany's highest awards(2).
They can & did "change who they were" by being participants in the very system that persecuted others of their kind.

Less has been written about Roma conversions to Christianity as has been written about Jewish conversions to Christianity but that too offered a chance for some Jews to "change who they were."

Briefly put, the European, WW2 era holocaust differs from previous & subsequent holocausts primarily in the successful extraction of countless $Billions available only to Jewish individuals that has subsequently been grossly mishandled by Holocaust Industry swindlers(3) to the detriment of its intended Jewish recipients.


(1) "Adolf Hitler’s Armed Forces: A Triumph for Diversity?"
https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/1/3/3102

EXCERPTS " I ask those historians who still believe that Hitler and the Nazis were “white supremacists”: how do you account for the incredible degree of non-German and ethnic minority (i.e., 150,000 Jews and Jewish Mischlinge) collaboration during World War II? Again, some two million non-Germans helped the Nazis.

The important thing to realize is that had the Nazis been as racist as most historians have argued, then they could not possibly have garnered the immeasurable level of support that they did. Even after Stalingrad; Spaniards, Slavs, Franks, and tens of- thousands of other non-Germans continued to fight for the Nazis on a volunteer basis. Frenchmen and Arab volunteers gave their lives in the final fight for the capital of Berlin in 1945. Hitler continued to allow thousands of Jewish men to serve, and many did so with incredible tenacity and valor. One has to call into question whether all of these Jewish men and other non-Germans were really as opposed to the Nazi regime as they have claimed after the fact. Their tenacity and determination suggests otherwise in many cases. The Jewish soldiers Bernhard Rogge, Helmuth Wilberg, Erhard Milch, and Ernst Prager come to mind.

The Nazis never racially segregated their troops. Blacks, Slavs, Asians, and Arabs fought shoulder-to-shoulder with Germans.

At least two million non-German foreigners and ethnic minorities served in Hitler’s armed forces at one point or another. Without foreign and non-German help, the Germans never would have had their Western defenses prepared in time for the Allied invasion. Let us think about two things here.

Hitler’s Wehrmacht-Waffen SS combination was the most culturally, ethnically, and religiously diverse military force in Western history. In spite of this fact, we are all supposed to believe he was a hyper-racist (my own term) like some other Nazis."CONTINUED



(2) "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers"
https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587

EXCERPT "Contrary to conventional views, Rigg reveals that a startlingly large number of German military men were classified by the Nazis as Jews or "partial-Jews" (Mischlinge), in the wake of racial laws first enacted in the mid-1930s. Rigg demonstrates that the actual number was much higher than previously thought-perhaps as many as 150,000 men, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals."CONTINUED


(3) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

EXCERPT "Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.”CONTINUED

 

Holocaust exploitation and Holocaust exceptionalism are very criticizable but they're a wholly different subject. Modern day ideologies are completely irrelevant to the facts of WW2. People who bring up ideology in a discussion about history are by definition biased.