Trump Vows to End Birthright Citizenship

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    You are right it hasn't been used yet. But the hope that Trump can actually overturn the Constion by EO supported by the courts would only occur by judicial activism. That said I think the whole thing is just another Trump fraud to try and fool his supporters prior to the midterms. Bet the EO never happens.
     
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    What a pantload! What the hell do you think that thousands of Central Americans (and who knows how many more 'tag-along' Mexicans) are marching toward the United States border for?! Merely having a fun sight-seeing excursion?! :banana:

    This is what comes of pouring untold millions of dollars into the radical Democrat-infested 'Peoples' Public Education Combine' for the past four decades!

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    Don't know. Can uou link to memo so I can read the actual memo?
     
  4. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All the EO would do is reaffirm what the 14th amendment already says until the SCOTUS defines the Constitutional interpretation. Democrats already know this. The "slight of hand" has been going on for a long long time.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Duplication....sorry
     
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    Noted that you can't actually debate what I said in my post. And what they are coming for is to apply for sanctuary. But I like the image that you think justifies your remaining ignorant of fact.
     
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    All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    About the only way that could be overturned is if the meaning of " and " should by some miracle be changed.
     
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    If he was going to do it he would have done it. It takes less than five minutes to write an EO ready for his signature. trump is just talk and no action.

    But have you thought about how it would be implemented? The anchor babies would still get American birth certificates. Would all parents be forced to prove that they are citizens before their new born babies get their birth certificates? And what if the bureacrats go rogue and issue them anyway as they have always done?
     
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    Actually I do know what it means.

    It means voting Democrat.
     
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    Considering that roughly half of the current illegal immigrants arrived here by airplane...yea...it seems rather brilliant to just find another avenue if the "wall" prevents them from crossing by foot through that one particular border.
     
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    25$ billion initially and 25$ billion every seven years...in perpetuity, for a wall that will not reduce illegal immigration and will hurt the environment.

    And let's not forget the fact that trump will deprive American citizens of their land.
     
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    Easy answer. Yes
     
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    No, Jester, what they are coming for, ostensibly, is political "asylum". There are specific grounds upon which a valid request for asylum can be submitted -- very, very few of which (if any) actually apply to the thousands that have somehow spontaneously decided, all at once, to rush the border to apply for it.

    Reality? It's just another damned invasion of the kind that Obama blithely turned his back on in 2014 and ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. Trump isn't going to do that!

    Got a short memory? Were you awake in 2014, during the "Messiah's" reign...?

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    So we can "only" stop 50% of illegal immigration with the wall? That's a huge number in reality. Build the wall!
     
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    As you probably know, but don't want to admit, the number of long-term welfare/anchor baby illegals is most likely greatly from foot-traffic sneak-ins.

    Those that are "Documented" with a visa are still a problem, but not as big a problem as the "undocumented" illegals.

    Also, I'm pretty sure that the bulk of the illegal drugs and children being dragged into a life of sexual slavery aren't coming in on airplanes either.
     
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    If Trudeau gets elected for a second term...you just might.
     
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    As you probably know, but don't want to admit, the "statistics" that you just cited are total and completely fabricated from your own belief system of what you want the statistics to show.
     
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    Maybe we could trade our liberals for their conservatives
     
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    Or, at a mere fraction of the cost, we could deploy armed surveillance drones to patrol the border much more effectively. A large fleet of those in the air, plus tactically-placed antipersonnel mines would deal effectively and conclusively with the problem, once and for all....
     
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    I wonder if people who support this action and have visions of SCOTUS allowing it realize they can kiss the 2nd amendment as they know it goodbye? After all, if SCOTUS allows the president to enforce what he believes was the intent of the 14th amendment then the 2nd becomes fair game by the next.
     
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    LOL...

    Let me get this right...

    You are saying you actually believe most drug dealers, human traffickers, anchor babies, and cronic welfare illegals are getting passports, visas, and plane tickets to the US?

    That's just plain funny.
     
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    That is a lot of great American jobs being created and maintained as we keep illegals out which will reduce the amount of money we have to spend on illegals every year.

    Almost pays for itself. :)
     
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    Bad analogy.

    2A specifically gives citizens the right to bear arms. 14A does not even mention illegals.
     
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    "Anchor babies" are born in this country, so no, they aren't taking flights to get here.

    Most drug dealers reside in this country legally, so yes, they are taking flights to get around.

    Human Traffickers have a number of methods for getting people into the country, and yes, many of them - if not most - can take flights.

    Chronic Welfare Illegals are not a thing because you don't get welfare benefits while being an illegal alien.

    Your bigoted belief system is not funny, unfortunately.
     
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    After you figure the welfare money savings, it pays itself easily
     

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