WINNING!! Third Quarter GDP at 3.5% – President Trump Continues to Reduce US Debt to GDP –

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    Huh? I'm just saying that the economy of 2017 was still according to Obama's way of managing things economically, since Trump had no plan.
     
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    Obamacare among things.
     
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    Weird how as soon as Trump was elected, suddenly Obama-The-Unfortunate's plans started working. Bush and Obama were the two dumbest back back presidents in American History.

    We are finally getting REAL results because we finally have a REAL President.
     
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    You really need to look at clear cut facts rather than your fantasies.
    Wages just posted their biggest year over year spike in nearly a decade.
    Trump's cutting unnecessary regulation.
    Holy crap, find a calendar. Women have been in the workforce going on two generations. By controlling illegal immigration, Trump is working to increase wage pressure.
    Trump's working on that.
    Noshit Sherlock.
     
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    Americans can tell when they get the real thing.
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    How about you go source me Trumps economic plan of 2017, if you claim that was what happened.
     
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    Today we are not merely transferring power from one Administration to another, or from one party to another – but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you, the American People.

    For too long, a small group in our nation’s Capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost.

    Washington flourished – but the people did not share in its wealth.

    Politicians prospered – but the jobs left, and the factories closed.

    The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country.

    Their victories have not been your victories; their triumphs have not been your triumphs; and while they celebrated in our nation’s Capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

    That all changes – starting right here, and right now, because this moment is your moment: it belongs to you.

    ~ Trump's First Inaugural Address and he's off to a hell of start on these commitments.
     
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    That aint no economic plan of 2017.
     
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    Yes it is, and it's doubled GDP growth, while slowing the rise in the Federal debt and spiking wages by year over year rates not seen in nearly a decade.

    Liberty and Freedom is much more economically powerful than Authoritarian Socialism.
     
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    You go source me that plan of 2017 made by Trump. Because as far as I know... he was playing golf and his economic plan was put in 2018, not 2017. That speech you put up, ... that aint it. That's just a speech.
     
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    It's the Freedom and Liberty Plan. Freedom and Liberty whips Authoritarian Socialism everytime. That's why Trump has doubled GDP growth, wages are spiking at near decade hughes and the growth of the Federal Debt is easing.
     
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    Not seeing a source
     
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    Dude... he changed the way the US had to pay his taxes in 2018. If you can not source something like that for 2017... means it still was the way Obama arranged it. And you're failing for the 4th time to source what Trump did for 2017. You're only sourcing the talk the talk.
     
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    ROFL that was a health insurance policy not an economic policy and IT TOO FAILED. That the best you got?
     
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    Authoritarian Socialists are blind to damage done by their foolish top down programs that never work. You guys passed all your crap under Obama, called them "economic programs" promised "recovery summer" and "green shoots" and then we got month after month of "surprised economists" all surprised that we were getting crap for results. Remember all the "jobs saved or created" from Porkulus and Cash for Clunkers?

    All we need for an economic program is freedom and liberty to pursue OUR goals, OUR dreams, OUR own way. That's what Trump promised and its worked just as magnificently as he said it would.

    He made it look easy, because it is easy.

    Here's a question that will show you why you can't see the perfectly obvious.

    WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE US ECONOMY?
     
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    Your claim has been refuted several times including that the growth that is beating anything in the last decade is expected to accelerate. Why do you keep repeating it.
     
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    Democrats produce mobs, Republicans produce JOBS!
     
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    All you are doing is comparing the growth in 2017 and half of 2018 to 2016. That is only looking at 2.5 years. What I am saying is that if we look at the growth for the past 70 year for the US and every other developed nation we see a gradual downward trend. Sometimes growth jumps up for a few years but it always comes back down again. Let me give you an example.

    Here is the growth under Trump boom years:
    2017: 2.2%
    2018: 3.2% (estimate)

    Here it was during the Bush boom years:
    2003: 2.9%
    2004: 3.8%
    2005: 3.5%
    2006: 2.9%

    Here it was under Clinton:
    1992: 3.5%
    1993: 2.8%
    1994: 4.0%
    1995: 2.7%
    1996: 3.8%
    1997: 4.4%
    1998: 4.5%
    1999: 4.5%
    2000: 4.1%

    Reagan boom years:
    1983: 4.6%
    1984: 7.2%
    1985: 4.2%
    1986: 3.5%
    1987: 3.5%
    1988: 4.2%
    1989: 3.7%

    Carter boom years:
    1976: 5.4%
    1977: 4.6%
    1978: 5.5%
    1977: 3.2%

    If you look even further back, you will find that the high growth periods are slowly declining decade by decade. Sure, growth will dramatically improve in a couple years, but its nothing like 1984's 7.2% growth.

    https://www.thebalance.com/us-gdp-by-year-3305543
     
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    No they aren't Trump's policies are helping the rich. Real wages for the middle class are growing by less than 1%.
     
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    We are trending upward, with some of the best numbers in decades. I don't need to look back at 1977. Every supposed complaint you have had has been refuted. Inflation is not as high as you stated, incomes are growing more than you stated, growth is higher than even the Democrats said it could ever get to and expected to increase and even the lower and middle classes are benefiting from the growth.
     
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    The dems abandoned the middle class, so many former dems voted Trump.
     
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    If it's not perfection in the economy it's just not good enough.

    Best in 50 years, what the hell, nothin' to it, no damn good.

    Only Utopia will do.
     
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