How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Oh right, so it is the woman's vulnerability that you are concerned about, not the life inside of her?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    It's odd you can't remember these two posts (??) They were only back a couple of posts..

    """chris155au said:
    Oh I most certainly do! Anyway, you have your own challenging response from me to deal with! Forget about what I said to Giftedone.""""




    FoxHastings: No, I haven't seen any "challenging" response from you...…. (???)

    And I don't have to forget anything...."""":


    YOU posted : ""Forget about what I said to Giftedone""

    ...and I responded "And I don't have to forget anything".... can you comprehend that sequence? It really wasn't very long...


    Why do I have to explain to YOU what YOU post ?????


    And NO, I don't think what you post is "challenging", it is my opinion ...and you forgot I do NOT click on your links...
     
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    Yes, women are more vulnerable when pregnant.

    Also, the act took away her right to have her baby. It ended her CHOICE, much as Anti-Choice people wish to do.

    It ended a life inside her without her consent.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I explained to you one of the reasons why society in general views violent acts on some differently (more heinous) than the same violent acts on others.

    You can accept this or not. Either way - it is what it is.
     
  6. chris155au

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    Once again, I wasn't interested in what society thinks, I was interested in what YOU think!
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Yes, so shouldn't there be a separate law for this other than homicide?
     
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    My mistake. Do you agree that homicide is the law that is used?

    Why is it silly?
     
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    Why?
     
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    Well you don't actually believe that it is homicide do you?
     
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    I don't give a rat's butt what it's called......
     
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    Well you believe that if I killed you that would be homicide don't you?
     
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    Oh just like a State's right to have slavery.
     
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    What state has the right to "have" slavery?


    Taking away women's right to their own body is slavery..
     
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    Same thing as what society thinks.
     
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    Would you make a distinction if the attack led to the death of the fetus?
     
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    Don't get you hopes up. This is a question they will go to any lengths to dance around.

    All they'll say is it's an assault on the woman.
     
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    In which case they would have to say that it should be a standard assault charge, with nothing to do with the unborn life!
     
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    No, they'll just say it was a more serious assault on the woman, because her body was more affected.

    (They won't say it directly, but presumably that either means the miscarriage affected her body, or they believe the fetus is a part of her body. Both of which views are illogical.)
     
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    The fetus being part of the body would be too easy to to argue against as they would also have to consider the attack worse if she had a tumor!
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    """""the miscarriage affected her body, or they believe the fetus is a part of her body"""

    NO, both views are quite logical and factual...
     
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    That's so hilarious and ironic coming from you !

    What is this question you believe "they" are dancing around?



    Uhhh, ya, an assault on a woman is an assault on a woman.....and women are the ones who get pregnant.


    Did you come up with a point yet ?
     
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    Because she wanted the fetus to become a child! If I shoot myself is it the same as someone else doing it
     
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    No. The crime is the violent act against the woman. Claiming the fetus is a person - such that a crime was committed against contradicts other legislation which does not recognize personhood of the fetus. Such contradiction would then be an anathema to the principles of Justice.
     
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    What about @FoxHastings' point, that it would stop her from making her own choice about whether or not to have the baby?
     
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