5 off duty cops were at Ventura bar shooting...all unarmed.

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  1. Nonnie

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    Could we guess why Australia and the UK suffer few gun problems compared to America?

    Why not replicate what Australia and the UK do? Might take a couple of decades.

    At least then Americans might start to feel free.
     
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    There are already laws which prohibit criminals from using guns. What new law would force criminals to turn in the guns they already have? What makes a person a criminal is it the fact that people who do not obey the laws are by definition criminals? So why do the left want new gun laws? It is because they want all law abiding people give up their guns and they do not care about criminals keeping their guns they just want everyone else unarmed. What do you think armed criminals will do when the rest of the country is unarmed?
     
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    Maybe people in the UK and Australia don't mind being robbed or assaulted while waiting for the police to arrive.
     
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    Yes and they ar single incidents

    Give me statistics please because we are not saying it does not happen what we are saying is that the damage from having extra guns in the community outweigh the benefits
     
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    Look at the latest incident in Melbourne

    If semi automatics were available in Australia like they are in the USA, how many would have been shot?
     
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    If you have better stats post them
     
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    Because the united states is not like any other country in the world. Not simply due exclusively to its thriving firearms culture that no other nation possesses, but due to a myriad of reasons that all contribute something to the equation.
     
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    Largely because they never had such to begin with.

    Because such is not only a legal impossibility, but also a physical impossibility. What other nations have done, has only been achievable because they did not possess a culture similar to the united states, where distrust of government is widespread, and where firearms ownership is actually valued for being a constitutional right, no different than being able to speak an unpopular opinion and not be punished by government for doing such.

    Feeling free is not the same thing as being free. Those at the bar felt safe and secure, until the shots were fired. Then they realized what they felt was wrong.
     
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    Is it being stated on the part of yourself, that the only reason mass killings are not being committed in the nation of Australia, is due to certain firearms not being freely available to the public?
     
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    Free men are armed.

    Subjects are well, subjects.
     
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    It's all the Queen's fault.

    Got it.
     
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    So are you saying cops need not respond to mass shootings? Might not make a difference anyway? Sure sounds that way.
     
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    Nothing outweighs an individuals rights to defend himself
     
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    Not at all.

    What if the bullet hits the cop first before they react? They become immobile. That’s what we saw happen in Pittsburgh.
     
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    Still sounds like you are implying "resistance is futile".
     
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    Mass shootings shouldn't be taking place because there should be sensible types of gun, regulations, strict policing of said regulations and meaningful punishments.

    And don't worry, your government won't go tyrannical. Panic over.
     
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    so abiding by the law in cally, the good folks:cowboy: loose and become cannon floater:dead:, so do the good folks hang the law:reading:yers:confused:
     
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    Life offers no guarantees.
     
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    What can the state of California do in the way of implementing new firearm-related restrictions, that they do not already have in place? What more can be introduced, much less enacted?
     
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    They already have, Obama used the IRS against political opponents and initiated the Deep State attempted coup against our duly elected POTUS. We need the 2A now more than ever.
     
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    Its the subjects fault.

    In under 100 years the brits and commonwealth nations "men" have gone from being lions, to feeling good about turning in their guns.
     
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    But it must be appropriate and reasonabke response otherwise you will find yourself in court
     
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    That is currently the law in many states. Some states have the whole "right to defend myself and my property with deadly force" laws and others have "you must be in actual danger" laws.
     

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