TRUMP CRIES FRAUD AS A DEMOCRAT PULLS AHEAD IN ARIZONA

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    3 World Wars?

    After WW1 and WW2, what else?
     
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    The Cold War.
     
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    So do blue states. In fact the most military bases are in CA followed by FL then TX - zero of them appear on the list. Like to try again?

    That’s crazy! The Donald has had complete control for two years!?
    Are you really saying everything right down to his slogan is a lie?
     
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    Why are ID laws racist? Please explain how a person's ID is connected to race.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The poster never even mentioned the President.
     
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    Well, though racist is not appropriate (''racial' is better), the laws are proposed with the sole intent of reducing turnout. As the data shows, this disporportiontately affects minorities. So , while it may be incidental that it disporportiontately affects minorities (as the design is really to decrease turnout, favoring republic outcomes), it is still a fact of the game.

    Personally, i don't criticize them as racist. Just fraud.

    Now, the measures to make it harder for minority communities to vote? Those are definitely racial, and probably racist, too.
     
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    None of this matters, including a poll worker who saw the staff using blank ballots to continue voting after the station had closed.

    Democrats almost always win 'recounts'. The odds are certainly in their favor once again.
     
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    Why would ID make it harder for minority communities to vote? And what race are you referring to?
     
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    Many states in Europe have ID cards.It's absolute nonsense to claim that they are racists or infringe civil liberties.On the contrary, they are convenient, inexpensive and easy to carry around.The best way to tackle fraud in any shape of form.The identity theft in particular.Only people who have things to hide and have some dark agendas usually complain about ID cards.Nothing to lose,only to gain.
     
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    Well, the lack of state id correlates most well to income, and minorities are disproportionately low income. Is this really the first time you have given this any thought? You can look this stuff up.

    You can even find data on the effects of voter ID laws. They work. That is, they do what they were designed to do (hint: has nothing to do with fraud, in its current incarnation).

    Also, you can find republicans and ALEC docs that lay bare the real reason for these laws. It's not a secret.
     
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    Good to see "little" Marco flexing his muscles once again.
     
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    And take greater measures to make it easy to vote. Again, I am not (and few are) against the basic principle of showing ID to vote. But, in the existing environment, the recent, unqualified, hamhanded ID laws are designed and work only to suppress turnout. Again: it's not a secret.
    The cat has been out of the bag for a while, now.
     
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    I dont even sign my cc receipts.
     
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    I'll give you WW2 (the Bomb) but as for WW1......you were Johnny/Uncle Sam Come Lately after flogging weapons to both sides. You did not enter the War until April 2017, three years after it started. Certainly, the introduction of US forces greatly increased the capacity of Britian and her Allies....but....we reckon, here Down Under, that we won it for the Poms and Frogs. :)
     
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    We made a decision about 50 years ago that our national priority would be redistribution of income. That was a tragedy. Since then, the poverty rate hasn’t changed, middle class incomes have flatlined, our international rankings have tanked, and we no longer do great things.

    Liberalism has destroyed us to the point where American exceptionalism can no longer be taken for granted.
     
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    He needs to spotlight the corruption in Broward. It will be fun to see the cockroaches scatter.
     
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    GREAT to see Kyrsten opening up that lead in AZ... :thumbsup:

    Keep crying, Drumpf … you fraud...
     
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    That’s strange, the middle class flatlined upon the introduction of Reaganomics and trickle down economics that saw an increasing divide between the wealthiest and the poorest. The war on drugs and terror has drained more from America than any program ever implemented by Democrats - and at least the dem programs were built to help others - cons just want to kill imprison and steal,

    If you remove many of the red stronghold areas our world standings increase in both educational attainment and healthcare. Cons are a drain on the entire system and the only reason they have any power is because the skewed authority given to uneducated rural voters.
     
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    I'm trying to discuss this with you so will not bother going to outside sources. Why not just respond to the questions raised in your own words?

    How much would an ID cost that would be beyond the ability of a member of a minority community to pay for it? And what 'race' do you continue to refer to?
     
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    Why is it great that she will win? Which issues does she address that you agree which and are important to you?
     
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    Good for you...must make you feel superior...
     
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    I did exactly that. You asked: "Why would ID make it harder for minority communities to vote?"
    I answered: "Well, the lack of state id correlates most well to income, and minorities are disproportionately low income."


    I don't know. I don't think such data exists. If you are asking my personal opinion: If they are required for voting, they should be free. We should be bending over to give them to everyone.
    When I say, "minorities"? Stop wasting my time. This is not honest discussion. And I am not your assistant. Just make your point.
     
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    I like how he's comparing a county of 180,000 people to a county of 1.9 million people
     
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    Why should the US have gotten involved in any European wars whatsoever, given they'd already fought 'the war to end all wars' just a couple of decades earlier?

    Many European countries claimed to be 'neutral' against Nazism, and still are apparently, and some, like Switzerland, made fortunes from the war.

    But the left in the free democracies gets on America's case while ignoring their behavior of Britain's continental friends. It's just too pathetic.
     
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    But how would you know whether they could afford an ID card or not when you don't know how much it would cost?
    The Democrats have already nixed the idea of free voting cards.
    You mentioned 'race' when there are people with low incomes of all races. Which race were you referring to?
     
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