Something Looks Weird In Broward County. Here’s What We Know About A Possible Florida Recount.

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  1. Kode

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    You find that "baffling" eh? Really. That says plenty.
     
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    It is baffling why a president that claims to be a law and order president would advocate for not recounting even though the law says it must be when the difference in vote is under a certain percentage. Why is a recount needed when the current results gives the senate seat to Republicans? Oh yeah, a recount is needed because it necessitated by law when the vote is as close as it is. Who would have thought that a law and order president would tell people to ignore the law? [SARCASM] I would have never guessed that Trump would try to avoid what is legally required when doing so would jeopardize what he wants. [/SARCASM]
     
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    How do you plan on addressing a foreign nation interference if you don’t care about laws being followed here?
     
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    Your pointing out truths can’t deny that. My main question about this Snipes women is how is she still in charge? I know she’s elected but there wasn’t anything that could have been done prior to this? Malfeasance all around in Florida apparently
     
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    Yes, she should not be in charge. Hopefully, next election will not be under her control, but I cannot remember the last time that county actually had an election go smoothly. I think it is more structural issues with the voting systems in that county than the person in charge.
     
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    Well there’s only two possible choices malfeasance or corruption so you might be right. Either answer doesn’t absolve the republican leadership in Florida because there has to be a legal way to remove her yet it wasn’t done. This election has highlighted to me state laws need addressing like in Arizona having different procedures on their curing of ballots that vary county by county. I want fair uniform elections and we don’t have that either because of ineptitude/laziness or corruption.
     
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    Your link didn't confirm your claim of any violation of state voter laws in 2018.
     
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    And you say that with absolutly nothing to back it up but opinion.
     
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    She hasn’t been “caught” cheating the vote. Your literally making that up
     
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    You and the DPe are choosing to ignore rather obvious election rigging - again.
     
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    Once again partisan Democrats ignore open election rigging.
     
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    You and I both know she’s been caught not following laws just like her predecessor in Broward
     
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    “Does that mean that she is a perfect SOE? Absolutely not. She is far from a perfect SOE. And I think most Democrats would rather have their elections in Broward County, one of our most important counties, be administered with someone with a better track record of success."

    A Florida judge ruled that Snipes violated state and federal laws in when she destroyed ballots too soon after the 2016 election, despite one of the Democratic candidates in a primary race taking her to court to preserve the ballots and a federal requirement that mandates ballots be kept for 22 months after an election.

    She was also party to a lawsuit in 2016 regarding a medical marijuana amendment that was missing from some absentee ballots and another decided in 2018 regarding when and how her staff could open absentee ballots.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/politics/who-is-brenda-snipes/index.html

    Nobody wants her doing her job she’s had multiple screw ups.
     
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    You said “nothing”.... proving she’s violating election laws is nothing to you?
     
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    If it was the Russians they’d be all over it lol
     
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    WHEN was that lawsuit won? To make sure your answer is unimpeachable, QUOTE the relevant line and post a link to your source. That should be easy.
     
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    Rick Scott wins two election lawsuits

    NOV 9, 2018 7:13 PM EST POLITICS

    BY GRACE SEGERS / CBS NEWS

    “Scott also filed a lawsuit against Broward County Elections Supervisor Brenda Snipes on Thursday evening, alleging that her office is hiding information about the number of ballots left to be counted. Broward County Circuit Judge Carol-Lisa Phillips ordered the immediate release of voter information from Snipes, ruling in Scott's favor.”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rick-scott-wins-first-election-lawsuit/

    That is nothing?? Seems concerning to me and I would think a person concerned with foreign election meddling would be concerned about this.
     
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    Do you realize there is no fraud mentioned there? It's all just a matter of Scott wanting counts and questions about who will count under and over votes. I have no problem with any of this as long as all these processes are kept bipartisan and transparent.

    I'm much more worried about adversary countries hacking into our election system with likely intent to ultimately bring down the USA. How about you? Are you worried about that at all?
     
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    Lol I can read so yes I realize that but you do realize it gives the public the idea of fraud when vote tallies are withheld? People act like republicans are just pulling this fraud stuff out of there arse without even mentioning this. Lack of transparency in elections is a huge deal. If people don’t think the vote is fair due to foreign interference/ local interference people won’t have faith in elections. Local interference produces the same results as foreign interference.... lack of faith in government institutions and general civil unrest.
     
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    "Withheld" is a loaded word. Maybe what happened was much more innocent. But the point is that although you whined "election fraud" there is no claim of it in anything you've produced.
     
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    I’ve produced reasons for concerns yet they are never mentioned when summarily dismissing allegations. Why? Because you and I both know that those lawsuits don’t look good
     
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    “Florida Gov. Rick Scott, the Republican candidate for Senate who currently leads Democratic opponent Sen. Bill Nelson by 15,000 votes, has won his first lawsuit against Palm Beach County Elections Supervisor Susan Bucher. As ballots in the gubernatorial and Senate races head to a recount, Scott sued Bucher Thursday night for refusing to allow official party and campaign representatives into the ballot counting area, and having staff members determine a voter's intent without review by the county canvassing board.”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rick-scott-wins-first-election-lawsuit/

    You legitimately can’t see where people are coming up with fraud? I’m not saying it’s for certain fraud because I can’t rule out incompetence but this is very troubling. Why are you not pursuing this with the same vigor as Russian election interference?
     
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    I’m not defending her. I’m only pointing out the ridiculous accusation made from whole cloth that their is blatenet cheating going on.

    I am also pointing out the utter hipocrisy of the Scott campaign in that they claim the left is somehow trying to cheat by counting all the ballots. His campaign is actually suing them to stop the count, and to certify the vote based on only the votes counted by Saturday. Whether the reasons for the slow count are valid or not, their is no evidence that cheating is/has/will occur, so the Scott campaign is actually suing to stop votes from being counted. Think about that Turner, their actually suing to stop votes from being counted. Is that the america you want ? How is the accusation that the dems are “adding” votes, any different from the right trying to stop votes from being counted ?
     
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    [/QUOTE]
    I’m not defending her. I’m only pointing out the ridiculous accusation made from whole cloth that their is blatenet cheating going on.

    I am also pointing out the utter hipocrisy of the Scott campaign in that they claim the left is somehow trying to cheat by counting all the ballots. His campaign is actually suing them to stop the count, and to certify the vote based on only the votes counted by Saturday. Whether the reasons for the slow count are valid or not, their is no evidence that cheating is/has/will occur, so the Scott campaign is actually suing to stop votes from being counted. Think about that Turner, their actually suing to stop votes from being counted. Is that the america you want ? How is the accusation that the dems are “adding” votes, any different from the right trying to stop votes from being counted ?[/QUOTE]

    I don’t believe I’ve alleged that I know for fact that there has been cheating going on. I am saying that this women’s past warrants more scrutiny than has been given. I’m not absolving Republicans either because they led the state they should have had some legal recourse to Barr her. I’m mostly pointing out that the allegations aren’t unfounded based on her past. I myself don’t think I’d say fraud because I can’t prove that what’s going on isn’t ineptitude. But this sorta issue should be above partisanship. How can we stop foreign interference if we can’t even control it at home? Can you link to the suit where Scott is suing to stop votes from being counted? I have never once said they are adding votes because I don’t have proof now I can see why people are saying that sort of thing because of Snipes/Broward counties past and her losing those suits.
     
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    I thought I made that clear.

    BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T BELIEVE NELSON, SNIPES, OR SCOTT IS TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE USA TO BENEFIT RUSSIA AND PUTIN.
     

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