Attack Against Christendom

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  1. delade

    delade Well-Known Member

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    Good as long as 'mom' is alive. After that all you will have left is the wisdom and instruction you 'received' willingly from her? And maybe all those instructions and wisdoms which you disdained but are still looming within your heart, will one day prove to be so true to life.

    If your mom is 20 or 30 years your older, you will one day be the same age as your mom when she passes. Hopefully you will be just as content if not more at that same age. She might have had a retirement nest egg. Where will yours be?

    Ask yourself. Who is the oldest 'celebrity' you know of and what kind of 'life' is that person living?


    Remember them then? Look at them now.. Even they get 'wiser' with time, right?

    Or do they just get 'older' in your opinion?

    https://www.imdb.com/list/ls057872986/


    They don't exude the 'lifestyle of the rich and famous' anymore, do they?


    And so again.. Do you really want the world to be a better place or do you want your own joys to be more acceptable to society?

    Those rock and roll celebrities are not on the list for some reason. I wonder why?


    These persons, however, may have learned how to age wisely and maybe even 'luckily'. There are some however that need to age living for Righteousness. Even within certain Denominations/Churches, the Truth and the Righteousness to and of The Truth is often times refused and turned away from when that Truth comes to them.

    Although what is written is written and they go by what is written, they, for some reason have a very difficult time looking beyond and deeper into that which they place their trust and life upon, namely 'just what is written', in the language they are most comfortable with.


    That is why 'Salvation' is of the (J)ews. I write (J)ews as such with the parenthesis around the (J) to show that the letter (J), in (J)ew, was not even a real English letter until around 1600 A.D. They would know much more of Sacred Text(s) than the 'translated or transliterated' texts.


    The available original manuscripts from the 4th century to the 18th century accurately trace the origin and give the complete history of the word "Jew" in the English language. In these manuscripts are to be found all the many earlier English equivalents extending through the 14 centuries from the 4th to the 18th century. From the Latin "Iudaeus" to the English "Jew" these English forms included successively: "Gyu," "Giu," "Iu," "Iuu," "Iuw," "Ieuu," "Ieuy," "Iwe," "Iow," "Iewe," "Ieue," "Iue," "Ive," "Iew," and then finally the 18th century, "Jew." The many earlier English equivalents for "Jews" through the 14 centuries are "Giwis," "Giws," "Gyues," "Gywes," "Giwes," "Geus," "Iuys," "Iows," "Iouis," "Iews," and then also finally in the 18th century, "Jews."
    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jew.htm

    But never translated or taken from the Hebrew Scriptures although the (J)ews are much more on the 'Hebrew' side than on the Latin or Greek side.


    The word '(J)ew', however was and is in The Old Testament denoting a 'people'. Why use the Latin of Greek version rather than the original?

    2 Kings 16:6 At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day.

    2 Kings 18:26 Then said Eliakim the son of Hilkiah, and Shebna, and Joah, unto Rabshakeh, Speak, I pray thee, to thy servants in the Syrian language; for we understand it: and talk not with us in the Jews' language in the ears of the people that are on the wall.

    2 Kings 18:28 Then Rabshakeh stood and cried with a loud voice in the Jews' language, and spake, saying, Hear the word of the great king, the king of Assyria:


    Let's take a look at the word 'Hebrew'. There is a 'h', there is a 'b' there is a 'w' in the alphabet. Let's take a look at the word 'Israel'. There is not an 'I', there is an 'r' and 's', there is an 'L'. But there is no letter 'i'. So where does the word 'Israel' come from?

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    The 'Vau', number 6, was then a Waw.


    How are these 'Genitle' words and explanations supposed to remedy and help the virgin daughters of Y'srael?

    Jeremiah 6:14 "They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace."

    They have healed only slightly.


    Nehemiah 10:30 "And that we would not give our daughters unto the people of the land, nor take their daughters for our sons:"

    They were not supposed to 'intermarry'. Where are the teachings to/of/for non intermarriages?

    Even now, where are those teachings of God towards the daughters of Y'srael?
     
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  2. delade

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    They have healed but only slightly saying 'peace, peace', Good, Good when there is no God in their Truth.


    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Isaiah 29:13 "Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:"

    Matthew 15:8 "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me."
     
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    Typo: Genitle = Gentile

    Want to hear of something really 'strange'? Today's Hebrew speakers maybe non native, will argue defiantly that the proper use of the 6th letter, vav/waw, is pronounced as 'v'.
     
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    Because I wanted to see if you did. And apparently you don't. But after we get your definition then we can go back and discuss whether or not there are actually any true Christians.

    For instance if you definition is " one who follows the teachings of Christ" then it is arguable true there are no true Christians

    On the other extreme if your definition is " one who claims to believe the teachings of Christ" then of course there are many true Christians.

    So how about posting your definition..
     
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    And Jesus talked to god in a burning bush. The credulous will believe anything.
     
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    Being a Christian means you have asked God for forgiveness and that you accept Jesus into your life as your Savior.

    None of us follow the teachings of Christ perfectly although we try.
     
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    There is over 7 billion people on the planet. You will be lucky to find a dozen people who follow the teachings of Yeshua. And no one has ever had faith in him because no one person has ever done what he said a person who has faith can do.
     
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    Maybe they did have faith and Yeshua was just throwing the bull.
     
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    If that is the case then their faith is worthless because Yeshua would have been a liar. And if he lied about that chances are he lied about everything else. So why would any rational person worship a liar?
     
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    See Trump supporters to answer that question.
     
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    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump’s evangelical supporters remain silent as president stokes increasingly violent rhetoric
    The above article reports that, "The Daily Beast contacted more than a dozen top conservative Christian religious leaders with close ties to Trump, and only three of them were willing to talk on the record or issue comments about the president’s approach and policies. Those who did comment either avoided taking firm positions or declined to condemn Trump’s demagoguery on the issue." Moral cowards do not take position against their masters. This is American Christianity. When they say "Lord," they really mean "money."

    ‘Pray for the crown prince’: Michele Bachmann and other end-times evangelicals turn up in Saudi Arabia
    The article notes, “An adviser to Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Friday the journalist was “dissolved” after he was murdered and dismembered.” I wonder if Baschmann asked how Khashoggi was "dissolved," and if she prayed for Khashoggi. And will all the "Christians" get to watch an actual beheading in the public square while taking a selfie? And if the Crown Prince got angry, I wonder what he is capable of doing do to her.
     
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    Chris Hedges is giving an overview of his new book around the US and Canada about his new insightful book, “America: The Farewell Tour.” There are a number of videos of his speeches on youtube, but this is one of his best speeches. He mentions the Christian Fascist Right-wing in all of his speeches. Also, I noticed a stronger emphasis on the theme of existential alienation, and modernist disenchantment. The Rev. Hedges even quoted Hegel! ( @ 1hr. mark). LOL!

     
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    What, you know that's impossible because you've never seen it? How childish.
     
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    Dodge noted.
     
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    You are denying that Trump is a liar? Or are you denying his supporters worship him?
     
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    All politicians lie, my Savior isn't a politician. You dodge the question on Jesus, was he liar, lunatic, or Lord?
     
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    All politicians lie, my Savior isn't a politician. You dodge the question on Jesus, was he liar, lunatic, or Lord?
     
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    Nobody has ever seen it! But then of course they haven't seen an ark that has carried two of every species and the poop that came from them either!
     
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    delete
     
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    Assuming he existed which is up for doubt, most probably just another huckster with a slightly more sucessful scam, although he didn't actually live to profit from it.
     
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    The short vowels in Arabic aren't letters, either. They are indicated by what look somewhat like diacritical marks. While they show up in the Qur'an in total fullness (as they have significant meaning in grammar and the Qur'an doesn't leave that to accident) they are usually not present in the popular press.

    My understanding is that Hebrew does have markings to indicate which of the alternate pronunciations are meant.

    I think we need to be a little more careful when we start making pronouncements about these ancient languages and what we happen to think was meant by their structure.
     
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    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    What? Just a slap on the face! What about the electric cattle prod and a pair of pliers to put out fingernails like Brother John Dollar at the Mountain View Christian Academy in Knox County, Florida?
    Sunday school teacher faces assault charges after ‘smacking’ child for ‘talking during prayer’

    And proof we live in a Christian Nation...the "conservative" child buried his mother at a church after killing her. We are not pagans! Besides, you don't need good grades to be president--just a liar and a psychopath.
    ‘Raging conservative’ teen accused of killing his mom over bad grades and burying her body at church:A Florida teen accused of killing his mother and burying her body at a nearby church bragged about being a “raging conservative” and visiting Trump Tower on his Facebook profile. The boy’s cover photo on the profile is a flag for “Kekistan,” a made-up country associated with Pepe the Frog, a meme image co-opted by the alt-right online.
     
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    Chris Hedges is from the Christian religious tradition who often writes about economics and modern advanced industrial society. Hedges has just completed two videos interviewing the CUNY Professor David Harvey on Neoliberal economics. Part 2 is a very important and especially enlightening explanation Neoliberal economics with its policy of “accumulation by dispossession.”

    A History of Neoliberalism, part I

    A History of Neoliberalism, part 2

    CUNY Professor David Harvey also has a free online lecture course at Youtube on Karl Marx’s Capital Vols. I –III.

    I have taken the Volume I course as a refresher and it turned out to be even better than I expected. The lectures span over 13 videos lasting in total of about 20 hours.

    If you want to study the course I suggest using his translation of Capital which is the Capital: Volume 1: A Critique of Political Economy (Penguin Classics) edition. This version is copyrighted; however, it is much easier to read and a very good translation for understanding.

    You can use the free non-copyrighted original translation in pdf format. This translation is much more difficult to use for the course and to read for understanding.

    It is perfectly okay to read Capital Vol. 1 starting with the last chapter (Chapter 31 / and about video 13) first and then continue backwards to Chapter I. Vol. 1 gets very interesting at Chapter 13 (Co-operation). Only Vol. 1 was actually written and organized by Marx. Volumes 2 and 3 are constructed with Marx’s notes and assembled posthumously by Frederick Engels.

    Don't forget to read the footnotes--they can be gruesome!

    Someone once said Neoliberalism is an ideology that dares not say its name.

    Here is David Harvey’s web page for many more resources at http://davidharvey.org/ that includes the Hedges interviews.
     
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    What teachings of Jesus were they following?
     
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    There are long held beliefs in the importance of freedom because one is not fully human as a slave. The ontological assumption is that human beings are made in the image of G-d. The Western tradition once assumed that freedom is better than unfreedom, and being is better than nonbeing--that freedom is a human project.
    Marcuse further writes...."Moreover, the argument debunks the repressive ideology of freedom, according to which human liberty can blossom forth in a life of toil, poverty, and stupidity."(Ibid., page 43.).
     
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