Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Eh, he's kind of waffled on this one. He's tried to use cold weather to say global warming doesn't exist, so . . .
     
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    Bigger problem than either Global Cooling or Warming is how we are going to deal with Continental Drift.
     
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    Now they won't call it global warming, they'll just call it "Climate Change" - an unfalsifiable statement -_-
     
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    Pending more detailed information from the OP, it is very hard to be sure what he is referring to

    I would observe that it is very easy to misrepresent long term trends using carefully sekecteted start and end points
    On November 6, 2012, Donald Trump tweeted: "The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."

    record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice."

    4. Trump also re-upped in a tweet in 2014 that it was all a big hoax.

    "NBC News just called it the great freeze - coldest weather in years. Is our country still spending money on the GLOBAL WARMING HOAX?"

    5. Multiple Trump tweets in 2013 and 2014 used the faulty logic: Because it's cold right now in typically warm places, global warming cannot be real.

    "Snowing in Texas and Louisiana, record setting freezing temperatures throughout the country and beyond. Global warming is an expensive hoax!"

    "Ice storm rolls from Texas to Tennessee - I'm in Los Angeles and it's freezing. Global warming is a total, and very expensive, hoax!"
     
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    Just when I thought it could get no sillier
     
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    What is pathetic is you are not talking about the issues but keep trying and failing to proove mecwrong with a gotcha! You noticed I used the word "ain't" in ' Trump said there ain't no global warming'. That was a derisive statement. You know that denying that humans had 0 , nada , no effect at all with global warming is a political belief not a scientific one.

    Here you go Trump changed his views or walked back his "belief" that there was no global warming.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science...ways-shifting-views-on-climate-change/573037/

    He said that global warming was created for and by the Chinese to make US manufacturing more expensive.

    He had at times referred to global warming as "bullsh....",

    The Trump called global warming a "hoax" , a "total hoax", an "expensive total hoax",

    See that is how you debate the issues! I remember things but I googled and with seconds I showed you that Trump did at one time say " ' there ain't ' no global warming'". In concept that is.

    Read the link and weep.
     
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    I recall one story on late night UFO talk shows that some guy said that.
    Eventually a billion few years from now the sun will get warmer very slowly and expand temporarily for a few millions of years before it becomes a red dwarf and cools off.
     
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    While everyone should be sensitive to the environment, the true objective of the "global warming" agenda is to facilitate a Global Social Justice program.

    The foundation of the "Climate Change" initiative was laid by Maurice Strong, called the Father of Climate Change, in 1992, when he coordinated the first UNCED meeting. There, in opening statements, he declared that the only way to address poverty around the globe was to harm the West, and get it to pay for the necessary changes in those impoverished countries. He detailed how Environmental issues could be the catalyst of doing that.

    http://www.mauricestrong.net/index.php/opening-statement6

    The concentration of population growth in developing countries and economic growth in the industrialized countries has deepened, creating imbalances which are unsustainable, either in environmental or economic terms. Since 1972 world population has grown by 1.7 billion people, equivalent to almost the entire population at the beginning of this century. 1.5 billion of these live in developing countries which are least able to support them. Each individual person is precious. We must honour, and the Earth must support, all its children. But, overall, this growth cannot continue. Population must be stabilized, and rapidly. If we do not do it, nature will, and much more brutally.

    During the same 20 year period, world GDP increased by $20 trillion. Yet 15 per cent of the increase accrued to developing countries. Over 70 per cent went to the already rich countries, adding further to their disproportionate pressures on the environment, resources and life-support systems of our planet. This is the other part of the population problem: the fact that every child born in the developed world consumes 20 to 30 times the resources of the planet than a third world child.

    The same processes of economic growth which have produced such unprecedented levels of wealth and power for the rich minority and hopes of a better life for everyone have also given rise to the risks and imbalances that now threaten the future of rich and poor alike. This growth model, and the patterns of production and consumption which have accompanied it, is not sustainable for the rich; nor can it be replicated by the poor.

    This is why "climate change" requires the largest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind. It's not about the environment, it's about a Global Social Justice objective, using "climate" as the vehicle to accomplish that.

    That is where this farce has been nurtured, funded, and manipulated. It's all part of the One World Government initiative discussed and strategized annually at the World Economic Forum in Davos every year.
     
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    Many people have a heart attack and then go on for months or years without another one. Would it be prudent to say that his/her heart problem is non-existant and no need for medical assistance or a prognosis? "Don't bother exercising, just keep to your normal eating habits & continue whistling Dixie .... you'll be fine".
     
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    The report that ignored the fact that the last two years actually cooled instead of warmed is worthless
     
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    That's what was said about tobacco and sugar. The tobacco and sugar industries paid off doctors and scientists to claim neither were unhealthy or habit forming. If there is a joke baked into the tobacco, sugar, and global warming themes I am not laughing.
     
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    For your comparison to be valid you must first assume earth has been warming due to man's behavior which is a big assumption and becomes even more suspect since the earth cooled the last two years as man has dumped record amounts of C02 into the atmosphere.
     
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    It always amazes me how whacked out some conspiracy theories can get

    Somehow this one person has inflipuenced tens of thousands of scientists in every country on the planet to follow his ideology
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    In your dreams
     
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    Links??

    And I would prefer something other than that pile of twaddle you first linked to which, by its own admission is not validated anywhere else
    Seems Berkeley Earth does not agree with you

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    NASA data is not a dream but it is your nightmare.

    "From February 2016 to February 2018 (the latest month available) global average temperatures dropped 0.56°C. You have to go back to 1982-84 for the next biggest two-year drop, 0.47°C—also during the global warming era. All the data in this essay come from GISTEMP Team, 2018: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis (GISTEMP). NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (dataset accessed 2018-04-11 at https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/). This is the standard source used in most journalistic reporting of global average temperatures.
     
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    If NASA data doesn't satisfy you nothing will.

    https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/
     
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    When you get old you easily get cold and summer becomes a burden, you young kids enjoy arguing over the weather..
     
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    I'm hoping earth continues to warm as it has since the last ice age ended. Talk of entering a new mini ice age does not set well with me
     
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    Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling

    Don't worry...I don't lie so I wont. Globally, the average land and ocean surface temperature for March–May 2017 was the second highest such period since global temperature records began in 1880 at 0.92°C (1.66°F) above the 20th century average of 13.7°C (56.7°F) and behind 2016 by 0.15°C (0.27°F).
    https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature
     
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    The issue is global warming, and not an industry trying to protect itself.

    Doing research into the subject, reviewing documents available on line through the UN and the World Economic Forum, along with a review of minutes and presentations from the multiple global warming conferences, the pattern and objective is quite clear.

    It's not Climate Change, is transfer of wealth, pure and simple. And when boiled down, it's a demand the citizens of the World turn their lives over to an all powerful body of powerful unknown and unelected "officials" who will dictate how everyone on the planet lives and works.

    This fact is indisputable. And that is a far different from the objective of big Tabaco, sugar or Oil.
     
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    Me neither since I have lived in the south or southwest most of my life.
     
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    A very sad and pathetic accusation from a Warmist unfamiliar with facts.

    Please refute what I posted. Were those not the words of Maurice Strong.

    Do you know who Maurice Strong is? Care to give is a guess?

    As it is, you just confirmed how foolish and uninformed members of the Warmist religion are.
     
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    You people do know that the sun will get hotter before it turns into a red dwarf star and the Earth will look like Venus?
     
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    Whispers

    Hate to telll you but it is not just NASA

    It is the Australian BOM, the Japanese BOM, etc for 187 countries

    http://worldweather.wmo.int/index.htm

    Now each of those has on average a thousand workers (ok a couple of the smaller countries it might be some bloke with a piece of string sitting on his porch) but each country has a workforce collecting data. So, how can it be a conspiracy?
     
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