Clashes as yellow vest protests grow in Belgium, Netherlands

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  1. Ddyad

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    In fact, the Trump tax cut hiked taxes on the rich.

    "President Trump signed a $1.5 trillion tax cut into law last December. The law capped a popular tax break used by high-earning taxpayers in high-tax states."
    THE NEW YORK TIMES, Did a Tax Increase Tucked Into Trump’s Tax Cut Come Back to Bite Republicans?,By Jim Tankersley and Ben Casselman, Nov. 19, 2018.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/19/us/politics/trump-tax-cut-republican.html
     
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    @Mac-7 is a hopeless ideologue.
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_opinion_by_country

    http://www.newgeography.com/content/006164-the-first-shots-climate-wars

    "The French are more worried and outraged by climate change than their British or German neighbors, but they don’t want to pay for a solution.​

    That’s the conclusion of the first in-depth, large-scale survey into European attitudes on global warming. In France, 79 percent of people are worried by climate change, compared with 60 percent in the U.K. and 68 percent in Germany, according to the European Perceptions on Climate Changestudy published on Wednesday."​

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...y-more-about-climate-change-than-eu-neighbors
    You're making stuff up.
     
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    Putin's kleptocracy will fail, too.
     
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    The lack of competition that creates wealth concentration.
     
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    Quoting yourself? Where's the cite?
     
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    The common market is an issue in that member states cannot set regulatory policy relevant to themselves.

    I agree the problem with the eurozone is much larger. You simply cannot place monetary and fiscal policy at different levels of government. It does not work.

    You can't pay down the debt without control of monetary policy.
     
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    What, you think they shouldn't protest over all those issues then? That they should be like the UK - a bunch of supine cattle who moan and groan in the pubs but never get off their fat asses to tell their 'masters' that in a democracy the public calls the shots, not the incompetent elected classes . . . they should just do what their electorates pay them to do, and that's to represent them end of!
     
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    If they’re poor, what is it the rich are stealing? Or is it the government stealing from the productive and giving it to the poor in order to buy their vote? And at the same time promising them, “Don’t worry, there’s plenty more where that came from?”.

    You can’t steal from those who have nothing—you need someone to produce something first. Money isn’t magic.
     
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    Dead is dead. Prayer is silly foolishness, God is an adult psychological pacifier to sooth the despair, depression, and fears that comes from selling out your brain to supernatural nonsense.

    As for “Heaven on earth”? I’d say we’re close, just as we are to achieving our own imortallity-not that we can’t die, but we won’t have to.

    The is only one ultimate power in the universe, the reasoning mind—prayer won’t work; thinking does.
     
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    Hmm. Aren’t rabid dogs put down? See a vet.
     
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    Giving my money to you and the communist chinese is better for my long-term interests?

    I dont think so
     
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    You can call yourself anything you prefer

    No matter

    If you cant understand the meaning of that quote then you arent trying hard enough

    The Deep State accused trump of conspiring with putin to steal the election from hillary

    And you bought that lie hook, line and sinker

    According to obama the election of hillary would have been the vindication of his first two terms and represent his third term

    But libs failed to put their heros over the top

    Obama and hillary failed in 2016 but libs you and many others cannot accept that outcome
     
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    Ok

    But the part about it being man made is a liberal hoax

    Average frenchmen to not want a lower standard of living just to make freaked out tree huggers happy
     
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    Once you start protesting against something and at the same time agains the absence of the same thing, you end up looking foolish.

    In US the same people who complain the loudest agains welfare (the farmers) are now being showered with other people money, and they are not complaining, and then again, why should they.
     
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    You too.

    The jury is still out on that one, so no, I didn't buy anything. I am waiting for the verdict. You, in the other hand, have made your decision before the verdict, which tends to prove you'll believe whatever your masters tell you.
     
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    If you mean I dont accept any of the bullshit that knee-jerk liberals believe then I dont object to having you call me an ideologue
     
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    But In Reality, The Protests Are About More Than Taxes
    But, as usual, the official story is not the whole story. It appears the protests are about much more than fuel taxes but that the taxes were the fuel to a fire of greater discontent with the entire system. Fuel taxes were just one more example of how an already overtaxed population are being taxed at higher rates yet again when all they want is to work and survive. But it brought to mind just how phony fuel and carbon taxes are – i.e., they do nothing for the environment but they do lower living standards and make it incredibly hard for working people to survive which, ultimately, is their purpose.

    But taxes also reminded the French people of how much they are already overtaxed everywhere else, how the elderly can barely survive on their pensions, and how workers, even middle-class ones, are watching their livelihoods shrink. For the poor, they are sitting idle and helplessly unemployed.

    On top of that, they watch Emmanuel Macron tell them there are no problems with the economy. If you’re out of a job, just walk across the street and get one! In fact, Macron actually said this to unemployed workers who questioned him as to what he was going to do to remedy growing unemployment in France, furthering his reputation as a lofty limousine liberal vastly disconnected from the population.

    Macron himself is an interesting component of this whole situation, having been chosen by power broker Jacques Attali and given a run at a Rothschild bank before assuming the Presidency to impose austerity measures, continue France’s foreign adventures, and essentially destroy the nation with more immigration.
     
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    So the french believe the earth is in a warming cycle

    Thats a natural thing that the earth has experienced throughout history along with cooling cycles

    But the french are being sensible by not allowing hysterical tree huggers to increase the price of energy to unaffordable levels and drive down the standard of living

    Thats a very sensible attitude for them to take
     
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    AGW and the resulting carbon tax us 100% leftisit inspired. Any move by anyone on the right to go along with this is strictly politicle and done for votes. Only RINOs in this country go that route
     
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    It is not just about climate change. France has a goal of being independent of foreign energy imports and all cars will be electric by 2040. All cars in Paris will be electric by 2030. It takes some money to make that happen, and they are trying to raise those funds. ​
     
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    Socialist governments tax everything they can and the air we breathe is not exempt.
     
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    It's s socialist government they are protesting so apparently it's not working
     
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    Capitalism is by definition competition
     

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