Solid Methane on the Ocean Floor

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  1. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you are one of those arrogant people who think every generation but yours must be saved by you. No wonder you folks are all doom and gloom as soon as you begin to fade away. The only 'solution' to climate change we've heard about is economic in nature, the almighty carbon tax. That's what the true believers of doomsday climate cultists will tell you, talk about a bunch of shallow and ignorant people, any who don't automatically agree with them are DENIERS, may as well just call us heretics or witches...
     
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    and how do plan to bridge the gap of hundreds to thousands of years before northern habitation is practical to any but small populations?...mass extinction and civilization collapse will have occurred long before the northern latitudes are habitable to anything but tiny populations....

    counting on the northern latitudes as refuge is fantasy, it's like Preppers thinking they're going to survive an apocalypse with their bugout bags....the only people who are going to survive are those who still live off the land at the most primitive levels because they haven't lost their survival skills..
     
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    future generations? we may be down to our few last generations ....we're on the Titanic and we're going down fast and you expect some future generation to us when only the bow of the ship is above water....it'll be too late, the change needs to happen now if those future generations are to have a chance....
     
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    and what have you done to change/help the situation???? give up your car? hybrid? electric? bicycle?...have you retrofitted your home to conserve energy?...probably none of the above, that's why there's a carbon tax, just like sin tax on cigarettes and alcohol those who deny the threats to their health needed a tax to dissuade them since education didn't work...
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's the bottom line. Feed the shark that swims to eat you. You believe the Government must have more money and ohhhh buoy, you found out a way.
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, now you got that out of your system. Answer this. Of those suggestions by you, what have you done?
     
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    Obviously you are much too biased to have an open-minded discussion on climate change...
     
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  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since you know how, stop changing climate. Why is that too much to ask of you?
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bowerbird, please stop changing climate.
     
  10. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wyly ... please stop changing climate.
     
  11. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    This is a 100% assumption? I never claimed to know how to stop climate change??

    First and foremost, in order for ME to fight global climate change, it requires that YOU be involved. And since people like YOU refuse to be involved, no mitigation will take place, and humans will simply deal with whatever happens...
     
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    Thats an interesting twist on the future.

    If Antarctica thaws and becomes useable, do you think Australia would militarize to defend it, or sell it? It would likely be very valuable real estate.
     
  13. Bowerbird

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    Likely to be only marginally habitable at best - tundra for the most part and do not forget that all that relies on vegetation - which takes years to establish and relies on sunlight (not darkness half the year) AND water - which would still be more likely snow rapidly melting Since Antartica has been losing land ice I would bet it would have a low rainfall
     
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    I could not have said it better.

    We are changing our business models in relation to climate change - just not fast enough.

    Australia is about to face an “extreme heat wave” over the next week or two

    Not looking forward to that
     
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    Antarctica is gaining ice over much of the continent.
     
  16. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You get what you think about. Quit focusing on any other human but those where you live.

    I have yet to see a Global alarmist work hard on things done by the Chinese or Indians either. They seem to pollute with no complaints at all.
     
  17. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it really has not helped. I am perhaps of all posters the least damaging to the planet.
     
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    Didn’t read my link did you??

    EAST Antarctica is not the whole continent

    Cherry picking festival
     
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    NASA did not say it is. Read it again.

    The NASA team combined space- and land-based measurements and found so much snow dropping in East Antarctica that even with drastic melting elsewhere, the continent was adding some 80 billion tons of ice annually.
     
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    A) Your link was to a blog - not NASA itself
    B) you OBVIOUSLY did not read the entire article ;Lols!!!


    Meanwhile

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-to-believe-in-antarctica-rsquo-s-great-ice-debate/

    And again we have to consider the entire continent. Even the article you linked to discusses the entire continent and different densities of ice as well as the distribution of rainfall
     

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