"Who's gonna pay for Medicare for all?" is either stupid or disingenuous

Robert: socialized medicine is tyranny
Rahl: uh, no it isn’t.
Robert: Stop slamming me!

 

I acknowledge you avoidance of my question.

I have observed that there are many people, not you of course, who are total snowflakes. They can't stand to have their statist position challenged, so they post retarded responses to legitimate questions. Too afraid to answer, so they divert.

 

I keep telling you that if you ask me a retarded question, you are going to receive one in return.

 

I acknowledge that you are afraid of certain questions.

 

I am afraid of nothing. I’m just done playing your stupid games. So, when you ask retarded questions, you’ll get one in return.

 

Not stupid at all.

Its a realistic question. Govt programs always cost more than predicted. Govt programs never work as intended. There is always more fraud and abuse and waste and inefficiency and corruption in govt programs than in the private sector.

The obamacare website has cost a fortune, the obama admin spent $840,000,000 to get the web site up and running. Even then it had problems. Thats a totally assinine amount for a web site. Amazon and ebay and a host of other online merchants have more complicated sites and they didnt pay anything close to the obamacare site cost.

The govt can't even do a simple web site and you want them to have full control of health care? LOL, what a pipe dream, what a fantasy.

 

Except for: Do you and I have the right to extort our fellow man?

 

Every other first world country with single payer, gets better care than us, for a fraction of what we pay.

 

Why?

 

Read the definition. Says nothing about democracy.

A constitutional republic is a form of government in which a representative is elected by the people to govern over them, according to the rules established in the law of the land. An example of a constitutional republic is the United States’ form of government. U.S. citizens elect a President, and other representatives, who then govern them as the Constitutiondirects them to. To explore this concept, consider the following constitutional republicdefinition.

This is from a legal dictionary.
https://legaldictionary.net/constitutional-republic/

 

Fine so you can easily prove that. Starting right now.

 

Rahl the establisher.
Funny

 

http://thepatientfactor.com/canadia...zations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/

 

His example of a TV is because as a right, Government would supply them. Government has a poor record of holding down costs.

 

Not sure why that’s funny?

 

I know, that's the really funny part

 

Waaa! Waaaa! Waaaa! I'm a special snowflake.

 

But it isn’t funny. Why do you consider being wrong, and me pointing it out, to be funny?

 

@rahl can't explain how certain people have super-special rights to take their neighbor's property.

 

Because I don’t have any obligation to defend a position you made up and attributed to me.

 

Why would government supply them just because they are a right? Government don't supply guns do they?

 

Japan ranks higher than France does and on your source France it number 1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...#List_by_the_World_Health_Organization_(2015)

Anyway, The difference in life expectancy between the USA and Number one is extremely close. I am older than the USA live expectancy.

 

Of course you don't. So what is your position? Do certain people have super-special rights to take their neighbor's property?

 

That been disproven repeatedly.

Life expectancy is a very poor metric for Western nations. A major factor in the USA because of Americans love of the car is driving injury and fatality, thats not such a big factor in other nations. Thats why in the USA for life and liability insurance the companies ask about smoking, drinking, obesity, and driving (history and annual miles driven).

Costs of "single payer" are also hard to quantify as they are spread all over the govt and encroach into the health care providers.

How do you explain Canada? They are facing financial problems, their "10 Year Plan" failed to solve the problem. They have very long wait times in many areas, a shortage of specialists and even primary care doctors, a shortage of special test equipment.

Check https://www.cihi.ca/en

The Canadian system has problems, but they are honest about it and are trying to address the problems. Unlike American single payer fanatics who don't bather with facts.

 

As my citation shows, every other first world country with single payer, gets better care for a fraction of what we pay.