Veteran starts GoFundMe page to build border wall

Technically untrue. His ISP only sees his connection to his VPN provider. His VPN provider, on the other hand, sees all his traffic.

Choosing the correct VPN provider is key to security and anonymity on the internet.

 

I think there are big time laws about starting a charity and then giving the money to something else, though the Trumps don't seem to care about that at all. You're supposed to keep records though.

 

The number of donors is more important to this campaign than the dollar amount raised.

If the Washington elite dropped an $12M coin, they wouldn't even bother to bend over and pick it up..... unless it was given to them by 12M of their constituents with expectations about what the money is to be used for.

 

You're saying, "My dirty guy is OK because your dirty guy is dirtier." I say anyone who engages in sexual abuse is not OK, regardless of the party, or their position. We disagree--again.

 

Good question. . .and one I've been asking since Nov 6. I've found no answer that stands up to rational scrutiny.

 

I'm a "leftist," and I DO want border controls to prevent illegal immigration, as well as interdict drugs and weapons crossing it either direction. Borders are not immoral, and border enforcement is not immoral, but separating infants and minor children from families without keeping records sufficient to reunite them later IS IMMORAL & unjust & unnecessary & UN-AMERICAN.

 

Do "feelings" motivate your support of building a wall?

 

16.5 million from 270k in 7 days reflects a significant level of public support.

Everyone needs to acknowledge the message clearly expressed that people are concerned with what they expect the wall to remedy.

Whether a wall would do the trick and contributions fund it are different issues, but it is clear this isn’t just a campaign ploy to garner nativist support.

 

Throughout the Cold War, the U.S. harassed the Soviet block over the Berlin Wall, claiming that wall was a powerful symbol for the failure of communism as a governing system. Trump's wall is America's Berlin Wall, from the perspective of the rest of the world, and as an American who supports democratic ideals, and human rights, I agree with the world.

I'm not opposed to building a wall in short sections of our southern border, where electronic surveillance would be insufficient, but I believe an electronic wall coupled with border guards would be enough for most of our border. Besides that, the Texas / Mexican border is the Rio Grande river. Where do you put a concrete wall there? If you place it on our side of that river you block us from using that river for agriculture, horticulture, trade, or recreation. Build the wall there, and we'd be effectively giving Mexico the river entirely. That seems a poor exchange to me.

 

The Berlin Wall, indeed the whole Iron Curtain, was to keep the subjects of failed Soviet satellites from escaping the misery and repression their system of government imposed. This wall Trump demands is to keep the impoverished subjects of failed Central American systems from flooding into the US. Two different purposes.

I too support democratic ideals and human rights, but I don’t perceive the absolute obligation to provide for the support of everyone who needs it. In my view I should support those I can to the best of my ability. In this case I’m told I must support everyone someone else says I need to.

The right to asylum has been distorted, we can clearly see this right in small families of Rohinga fleeing Burma, but it is not as evident for individuals crossing 2-3 countries seeking economic opportunities in the US.

 

Not everyone knows about it........yet

 

and that wall was to keep people imprisoned within not to keep people out
so your analogy is a utter and complete failure

And the Rio Grand isn't used for agriculture during the summer dry season the Rio Grand becomes no bigger than a stream and in many parts dries up also southern Texas isn't used for agriculture but live stock cattle ranches

 

Great, then why do you give the people who use tax dollars to bribe victims a pass? I demand everyone involved resign. I guess if trump used tax dollars to buy off his victims and Paul Ryan and Nancy Pelosi approved it, you would give trump a pass.

It seems if Democrats are involved, nobody wants to know.

 

I think the wall should be built everywhere it's feasible to have one. We can use technology and border guards where a wall won't work.

 

if you say so... however, your isp knows the search term and where you sent it, then your vpn sends you results that go through your isp to get back to your terminal/device ...

in case you didn't know, here in the 'land of the free', all internet traffic goes through the nsa before getting out to the web... PRISM

 

Bwhahahahahahahahahaha......ahem...Foxnews reported on it. The NY TImes reported on it and so did other news sources. He even went on to the Ingraham (RW) talk show to be interviewed. I guess she got millions of cheap viewers.

 

Hypothetical question - If a veteran who is missing 3 limbs commit a crime, you would not arrest and convict??

 

We are a country of 350 millions people. 270K people is a small drop in a bucket. Do you think Congress is going to listen to 270K people, most of them aren't even their constituent?? What happened to the rest of the Trump's voters?

 

Cattle have to have a source of water to drink. A wall would effectively cut off rancher's access to water for their cattle.

 

I've said it already, but since you don't appear to understand, I'm against all sexual abuse & misconduct by ANYBODY. I don't care if they're Democrat or Republican. If you can impeach Bill Clinton for consensual sex in the White House with someone not his wife, then why protect Trump, whose done this same behavior repeatedly & bragged about it? Or, stop attacking Presidents for extramarital sex altogether. But make a choice & apply it equally to all.

 

If that was true your party wouldn't support Nancy Pelosi. You guys are going to miss rhinos like Paul Ryan when they're gone and people like me replace them.

You obviously have no concept of reality. Bill Clinton banged an intern in the oval office on the clock. That is not acceptable in any workplace. It opens up the CEO to potential blackmail. Then he committed perjury and obstruction of Justice and that's what he was impeached.

Bill Clinton also settled a sexual assault case out of court so he wouldn't go to jail or be labeled a sex offender.

Trump is no angel but he looks like one standing next to Bill Clinton.

 

This apparently continues to grow and a very fast rate, lots of support. Remember when the Dems created one for Stormy Daniel and her lawyer? Only to have to end up having to pay Trump's lawyers with it? hahha or the one they used to pay Dr. Ford to falsely accuse a Federal Judge? haha

well at least this one is going to a noteworthy cause

 

We all live on one single relatively small planet in space. We are all co-dependent on each other for our very survival. Walls separate us from each other. We need more interaction and more cooperation among nations, not less. Walls don't block the flow of trade & cultural sharing only one way. Walls block activity for both sides, and increase separation, segregation, and over time increase distrust between neighbors. Walls along national borders are a negative influence for all concerned. In the pursuit of solving one problem, walls open doors to many new problems unanticipated by their builders. NOT A GOOD IDEA.

A border wall is a poor substitute for the long overdue action by Congress on a new immigration policy.

 

Well, no, not really. Once you are connected to your VPN, your ISP can't examine your traffic, because it is end-to-end encrypted.

Once you open an encrypted tunnel to your VPN provider, your traffic flows, encrypted from your PC to the VPN server, through that tunnel. No unencrypted traffic ever hits your ISP or the internet. Your "search terms" are, in effect, proxied by your VPN server on your behalf, and the results are returned to you through the encrypted tunnel. If your VPN server is in, say, Bumfukistan, then it appears to Google, and any other site you visit, that your search originated there, because they did.

This can, of course, cause problems. For instance if you try to connect to Bank Of America's website from your Bumfukistan-based VPN, they will not allow you to connect.

 

Trump is no angel no matter who you compare him to.