Wall street really is Crooked and not hiding it !

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  1. Quadhole

    Quadhole Well-Known Member

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    Read this : https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-26/why-stocks-are-soaring-massive-64-billion-buy-order

    Basically what transpired is that the poor got raped to pad the pockets of the rich again.
    Who would know when multi billion dollar pension funds need re balancing ? The Crooks that run them, wall street investment banks thru the board of each fund.
    They have set % of bonds vs stocks and need to maintain those balanced %'s. Thus, even when the market dives, they buy stocks to even it out. That is what this was about.

    Just an example with a CLOSE to or semi close outcome. Actually what happened so much in 2007 and 2008 and now doing it in the public eye without any recourse.

    Imagine you must stay within 10% of each stocks vs bonds. Stocks drop 20% as they have this quarter, thus, you overall VALUE of the fund is heavy in Bonds because of the loss in stocks. You then sell the Bonds which pull in a steady 2% to buy stocks which have fallen 20%.
    What this did was drive the market up 5%. The stocks in these portfolios are a KNOWN stock buy the sellers and buyer for the fund, thus, they can short each given stock and watch it drop. In fact, if it goes back the 5% increase of today, or somewhere close, it is logical to assume that the 64B has changed hands from the POOR to the RICH in one day with that drop.
    Just how crooked is wall street going to be up front like this ? Why would any fund manager force a buy into this horrible market knowing that it SHOULD fall further to equal true value ? They are going to force these PENSION funds into solvency and force cuts in payout while that very money rolls into pockets of 50K different people and away from 50M.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Who is this "they"? Is it the Jews again or are you pretending to be more rational now?
     
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    No, this DID NOT HAPPEN!

    The rich got richer because that is the way stock-markets work. And Income Taxation is far too low to prevent it the rich from accumulating such wild-eyed benefits.

    Nothing came out of the pockets of the poor because of stock-market variations. The poor do not indulge themselves in stocks.

    The only source of real-income is from work (and upon retirement from the government) - and all the rest is a sham (including real-estate transactions).

    Which is why the US needs much higher levels of taxation in order to obtain a more fair and just economy for all ...
     
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  4. Quadhole

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    No, your wrong ! The rich were taxed at 80% +++ before 1985, now, at 35% + That is a huge benefits to someone like Carl Icahn that does nothing but live and leverage to make more money. The stock market was manipulated up due to buy backs of the big corps. This is not your MOM and POPs market where reality, honest, increased business move the needle. It is Algo's that manipulate along with hedgefunds and their algo's. Plus the BIG investment banks, raping the 401Ks and steal money.

    You can write what you want, try to make it look like the market is a fair game and all people with 401Ks are doing well and the managers of their money care about them, they are getting pounded and all the money they made over the past 8 years will be gone soon for a negative return while those controlling it walk away with Billions.
     
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    They are 80% Jewish and 20% NOT. I am not trying to be anything. The FED is ran and OWNED by the Jewish leaders that OWN it. It is NOT a Govt. entity. The Investment Banks, long long list of them are again, owned and RAN by WHITE Jewish owners and leaders. They are not just other white people as they like to consider themselves when convenient. The ROTHSCHILDS run the world through their money and power, along with gigantic money types of Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and so on.

    No one is writing or saying there is anything wrong with the Jewish leaders. Yes, they live to make more money and have more power. So do many others. It shows that they are the smartest and greediest ones when they control it all. Politicians in our country are just puppets to them... Every major bank, again and most of big business. Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, etc. Jewish, jewish, jewish, and we send their country Israel Billions of dollars. Amazing considering we have trillions in debt and they have ZERO debt. Why do we give THEM money and not visa versa ?

    Much of this trouble with MONEY and Greed was fixed by FDR when he taxed the Greedy rich. Not all Jewish, just 90% were jewish at a time when they were 1% of the population. Lets face it, they know how to make and keep their money. To point it out is not Racist or antisemi. It is just the truth. They, themselves have a Jew should marry a jew proverb.

    It is just a problem when a rich person makes money, does it over and over again just to do it. They consider the working class schmucks and stupid working people. All rich take this approach to maintain their view and leverage. Everyone and everything is PREY. When the rich are like this, like they are today, you have to take their money and distribute it to the working class. Outside of that, you get what we have here today.

    Every forum site has their paid posters that are there to protect the republican, the money, the rule of law the rich run and want passed on as NORMAL. These are the guys, or women that will always argue for the rich, the republican, and to keep status quo. Everything is ok, you just need to work harder, be healthy, use your Credit cards, ha ha... Keep the money flowing up, not down... Congrats, hope it pays well !
     
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    Antisemitism is an important issue. On the rise, it shows how bigotry is no longer suitably controlled. However, its also very very dull. Goodbye.
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bollocks! Look at the economic research in the matter, will you? (This IS an economics forum is it not?)

    From WashPo (here): The richest 1 percent now owns more of the country’s wealth than at any time in the past 50 years - excerpt:
    This unfortunate FACTUAL truth above may spoil your day, but, so what?

    You and those like you are living a "myth" - whilst the poor die in poverty where about 40 million American men, women and children are incarcerated today* ... !

    *Don't want to believe that fact? Then see here:
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    My advice to poor people would be to avoid hedge funds.
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also note that the poverty rate started diminishing under Obama and not Donald Dork.

    Why? Because it was under Obama that the unemployment rate lessened.

    As seen here ...
     
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    And get a job.
     

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