Your position on Legalizing drugs

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    My Position on Legalizing Drugs?

    It is quite straightforward:

    Legalize Cocaine and give me a Free Lifetime Supply.

    Everybody else can fend for themselves.:salute:
     
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    If history is a guide, wasn't Carrie Nation opposed to "recreational alcohol"?

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    Yeah, we get it. You're a coke addict. That explains a lot.
     
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    Your position on Legalizing drugs
    I assume you're referring to recreational drugs. I say legalize them, give them away free or at rock-bottom prices, and control distribution at governmental centers similar to how we control alcoholic beverages now. That would take the profits out of the illegal drug market, and kill that morbid market dead. Legalizing drugs is not unlike legalizing alcohol, but would give us the opportunity to get its use under control so it would no longer be a devastation within society. I vote yes on legalization.
     
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    We created crimes out of lots of behavior. Why should drugs be any different? If you really want to get rid of victimless crimes, you would find a lot of support from conservatives. Sadly, I think this whole brouhaha over drugs is just a one-off with lefties, and they'll totally ignore all the other victimless crimes that they support.

    I guess if a quid-pro-quo was possible, we could trade marijuana for seatbealts and helmets. Then we can go from there to heroin in exchange for owning machine guns.
     
  6. Observing

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    I am fine with getting rid of seatbelt and helmet laws as long as my insurance rates don't go up. I doubt conservative
    people want civilians to own machine guns.
     
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    Pro legalisation. Anti usage.
     
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    Legalize and regulate everything but heavily regulate hard drugs like opiates. If people want the hard stuff, they will find a way to buy it anyway. Better for it to be legalized and taxed, then to deal with the black market.
     
  10. Liberty Monkey

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    I'd legalise weed, mushrooms and MDMA.

    I would decriminalise possession for personal use of the rest as well because criminalising users doesn't help.

    I'm with Professor Nutt on this one.
     
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    Give people a choice

    The right to vote or the right to be a pothead or hard drug user

    But not both
     
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    What does "legalization" mean?

    Is it still a controlled substance sold by prescription, or can you walk into a pharmacy and buy a pound of heroin over the counter.
     
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    Kelloggs Smack, Crack and Pot maybe?
     
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    AAAAAHHH! When did you change your avatar! Don't do that to me!
     
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    I did it myself in Gimp the best name ever for software ;) along with this one
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    Let me guess, she'll live in the brick house and we'll get straw.

    EDIT: I think she's more of a Fruit Loops kinda girl.
     
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    Now you're learning ;)
     
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    Legalization means that manufacture and sale are legal and regulated for purity and dose. And of course, possession is legal.
     
  19. perdidochas

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    I'm talking about actually in prison, not jail.

    Looking at actual prison stats (latest compiled from December 2015):
    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p16.pdf
    In state prisons (Table 12), around 15% (of 1.3 million state prisoners) are in for drug offenses. 3.4% for possession, the other 11% for trafficking etc.
    In federal prisons (Table 14), it's 47.5% (of 190,000 federal prisoners)), but we all know the feds aren't going after simple users, 99% of those are for trafficking.

    There aren't many people that are in prison for drug usage or possession. It's a myth when you use real numbers.

    The real problem with drugs and prison are all of the other crimes that drug users commit in order to get money for drugs. Most are actually in prison for the other offenses.
     
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    Seconded, we lost, we now have to make the best of it.
     
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    Manufacture and sale by whom and under what circumstances?

    As I said, is it something you can just walk in and buy like cough syrup or is it limited like, for example, prescription medication?
     
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    for sale just like whiskey and cigarettes. Any generic drug manufacturer would be fine.
     
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    As long as "like whiskey and cigarettes" means that the states can determine the rules of sales. For example, a state is allowed to prohibit alcohol or cigarettes, and many state (at least in the Southeast) give that power to the cities or counties. That is why in Alabama, there are still dry counties that don't allow alcohol sales.
     
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    So anyone can walk in over 18 or 21 and buy a pound of fentanyl. There's a great idea.
     
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    Why would anyone want a pound of Fentanyl which would be a wholesale amount? But If you had a dispensary license yes. Why not? You can kill yourself with a bottle of aspirin a lot cheaper.

    Fentanyl and any other narcotic will be diluted with other base chemicals and sold in a pill form. It will not be mixed in Mexico with a bunch of brown heroin so you don't know what dose you are taking and overdose, which is the problem we are facing now. Yesterday's fix was 10%, today its 25% and your dead.

    I don't understand why you came out with such a extreme take. Tell me why you want to keep people killing each other, robbing people, stealing from businesses, overdosing, and making criminals out of people that just want to get high on the drug of thiher choice, whether it is Alcohol, percs, amphetimies, or cigarettes. all the while spending a hundreds of billion dollars on enforcement and imprisonment.
     

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