Trump vs Pelosi/Schumer

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Who Made The More Convincing Arguement For/Against The Wall.

  1. Pelosi/Schumer

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    36.4%
  2. Trump

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    63.6%
  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who made the more convincing case for or against a wall?
    Trump
    Pelosi/Schumer


    Trump may have "Willie Horton-ed" the issue.
    Pelosi/Schumer speak of humanitarianism without funding.


    How do you call it?


    Moi :oldman:






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    Support The Dual Wall Solution
    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.

     
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  2. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FYI

     
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    Trump by far made the best case

    Not because he’s a better talker than the Dynamic Duo but because the facts are on his side
     
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    I didn't listen to them, I don't care one iota about the wall one way or the other. I however, think it is asinine to have a government shutdown over 0.0125 percent of the 4 trillion we'll spend this year. If these folks can't compromise for the good of the country, we certainly don't need any of the three in Washington. A pox on all three.
     
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    Trump made the better case but neither did a great job.
     
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    Whats sad is there is far more than .0125% being spent on stupid **** like quale matting habits under the influence of cocaine.
     
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    the pushmepullyu (schumer/pelosi) had that lost, disbeliefed look much the same as jimmy carter did after he was briefed ... were they 'schooled' in the same way?
     
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    If Trump was serious about it he would be talking comprehensive immigration reform.
    The problem is that no one trusts him to keep his word so he has to do it before rather than after the govt is reopened.
     
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    LOL, good one.
     
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    What reform should there be and how does that effect those who come across illegally? I mean this is the same idiotic saying as "common senses gun laws".
     
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    So Amnesty? The first line says "—The bill sets out a series of requirements that must be achieved over 10 years before anyone here illegally can obtain a permanent resident green card. These include:", that means they get to be here illegally for 10 years? Unless this was just worded incorrectly, it sounds like the bill you want is to allow someone to keep breaking the law for 10 years before they can get their amnesty.
     
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    And you would do what with 11 million people?
     
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    Would I do that? No, they broke the law, they don't go to the front of the line after breaking it for 10 more years.
     
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    So would it make you feel better to put them at the end of the line?
    Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but
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    What facts? MAGA wouldn't know a fact if it peed on his face.
     
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    Actually Trump talked about humanitarianism. The Chuck and Pelosi show talked about government.
     
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    Pelosi's the wall is immoral argument is very weak..

    100% border wall is a waste of money.. plain and simple

    steel slats are easily penetrated.. big waste of money

    A giant long pile of industrial hempcrete is smarter.. Mexico won't have to pay Xi Jinping the 25% tarriff on the steel.. We need the steel for skyscrapers and bridges anyway.. Farmers can grow it and we can sequester carbon in the barrier

    but there are always tunnels and pnuematically launched rope ladders technology

    I have a single use 50 ft high backpackable rope ladder model in prototype design.. 300 lb capacity

    Building the wall would really help my sales on Amazon
     
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    how could the facts be on his side, when he was wrong on every statistic and claim he made?
     
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    The life of a Border Patrol Family

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    @FivepointFive

    Not just about an unguarded, unmonitored wall,
    Complete with electronic systems and rapid deployment intervention.
    I would prefer "catch and release", apply for your rights at the local U.S. Embassy.


    When the Southern Border is confronted with a Civilian Invasion as
    Europe was and demonstrated ineptitude enforcing their borders -
    What do you propose @FivepointFive ? Open the borders ala Europeans?



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    We shouldn't have given Prince Mad Bat Shyt the weapons to create 16 Million starving Houdathi Radical Muslim women and children and a huge humanitarian crisis in Yemen.. They can starve or march. Admiral Scott Stearney, who was in charge of prosecuting the campaign in coordination with the Prince committed suicide.. People don't talk about it.. Trump was serious crickets on it... but I am pretty sure Stearney's conscience was a wreck. He did have a very sexy blonde wife so she may have driven him crazy

    Money for the wall could be used to make peoples homelands more secure so they don't have to escape persecution in the first place.. John Kelly tried to get Trump to understand that.. But understanding is not one of Trump's strong suits.

    Trump is Mr Disrupto.. Domo oriagato
     
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    Trump was not wrong

    But most liberals are in orbit around Mars or Jupiter so there are almost nonfacts we agree on anymore
     
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    Sending money to s-hole countries hoping they will improve the country only ends up in the pocket of the current dictator running the s-hole, it does nothing to improve life of the people, zero nada.

    As such it is a total waste of funds.

    Build a wall and keep them out of the U.S.
     
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