Medicare For All is best way to capitalism:

It won't matter. The blind refuse to see

 

a child born alive

you seriously don't know what live or birth means? lol

 

If you have a heart attack, you have no choice where you are getting treated. You are taking a ride in the ambulance, and they are taking you to the nearest ER.

This is why healthcare does not and can not operate under a free market.

 

if you need a car in an emergency you get a great vehicle and price that evolved over time. THe price and quality is fixed long before you get there. Do you understand now?

 

Well you could just not get sick... or just die...

See, choice!

 

I agree.

So, go start a thread - it's not relevant to the discussion here.

 

Sorry but I don't understand what difference a "closed system" would make. How does that effect the elements of single payer?

 

This doesn’t change the fact that you have no choice where you get treated for a heart attack, or why health care does not and can not operate under a free market.

 

Because a state is 1/50th of the nation. Gotta have the entire national system be single payer.

 

No. You don't.
If the richest state in America would go bankrupt, the other 49 would go bankrupt more quickly.

 

Uh.....no. only the federal government can collect income taxes at the rate they do

 

Because a state is 1/50th of a nation?

You really can't explain why. Where did you ever get this nonsense about single payer can't work at the state level?

 

If California could collect income taxes at the rate of the federal government it would be easy

 

What are you talking about? States can have as expansive an income tax as they want.

 

Why can't they?

 

No they cant. People only have so much income and most of that income tax goes to the feds.

 

People dont have enough income

 

That doesn't make any sense.

If the amount needed for a single payer system is too expensive to do it at the state level, wouldn't those same income taxes be imposed on the federal level? This is a particularly ridiculous argument.

 

States also collect taxes.

Civics much?

 

If California had to pay no money to the federal government they could do this easily

 

Damn capitalists...…. lol
Could this supply and demand thingy work to reduce healthcare costs in some manner? What would that look like, a glut of lower class illegals or a glut of doctors? Hmm.... just thinking aloud or is that allowed?

 

Colledge chicks.

Like my spelling?

 

Because the federal government could do it without raising taxes

 

No. They could not.

California discovered they would have to triple their budget.

Socialism is unaffordable.

 

We need a colledge chick for precedent, or is that president?