BuzzFeed: Sources say Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about proposed Moscow project

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  1. struth

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    Because he hasn’t been. P
     
  2. struth

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    I only know what’s in the buzzfeed article
     
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    Nixon was impeached for this same thing right? You again quoted only a portion of my message... I honestly do not know much of what happened when I was three. As I understand it Bill had sex/and or/ got a blow job from one of his staff members.. This pales in comparison.

    Many times on this site I have actually agreed with Republicans because I am fair minded.

    My tag line is one rooted in truth. You won't give Trump the same scrutiny that you likely gave Bill for a far less criminal offense.
     
  4. struth

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    The article is clear, that some unknown sources say that Mueller had to go to Cohen with a bunch of paperwork and have him explain what it was
     
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    1: No
    2: Irrelevant to the point that Democrats do not believe the federal felonies of perjury and obstruction, while committed in office, are impeachable offenses.
    The subject of the perjury is irrelevant - he committed federal felonies while in office.
    Had -YOU- done this, you would have gone to prison.
    Really?
    Why don't you think it is hypocritical of the Democrats to reverse their position on the impeachability of perjury and obstruction?
     
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    Again, that is not what the article said.
     
  7. jugernot

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    Perhaps, If I were like 30 when the Bill Clinton stuff happened, I would support his impeachment. Again... One final time.. I was not aware of the world around me when that happened. However, I know you were. So why... as a wise old man, would you be in support of the Bill Clinton impeachment, but not support Trump being impeached should it be proven true that he made people give false statements to congress? And yes lol... That is what Nixon was in trouble for lol.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are really out to lunch on this. Maybe go post in the humor forum.
     
  9. struth

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    Pretty clear to me
     
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    There is nothing funny about it
     
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    Also... As I understand it.. Bill's approval ratings rose during the impeachment proceedings... Right now Trump's rating are falling.
     
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    So you have nothing to worry about. So calm down.
     
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    You left out the other journalist, Anthony Cormier, who is a prize-winning (including the Pulitzer Prize) journalist. He stated that Leopold's reporting and the sourcing of the article are rock solid and he confirmed the information presented.

    While Leopold has been caught with his pants down in the past (the most recent one being roughly 13 years ago), he's made amends for it and was a Pulitzer Prize finalist in 2018. His reporting on government corruption since 2006 has been spot on and well-sourced through FOIA requests.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/18/media/buzzfeed-reporter-jason-leopold/index.html
    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/20/...g-government-secrets-from-the-government.html
     
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    How is your age relevant to this?
    Fact is, The Democrats held the position that perjury and obstruction - federal felonies, committed in office - are not impeachable offenses.
    Why do you refuse to call them out on their hypocrisy?
     
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    Pro tip:
    Google: argumentum ad populum
     
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    And what did Republicans say and are you a Republican? My age is relevant because I was not there to experience what occurred in real time. I believe that that is very important.
     
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    I believe I said "IF" proven to be true. But correct me If I didn't say that on several occasions.
     
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    Red herring. Don't avoid the question
    The Democrats held the position that perjury and obstruction - federal felonies, committed in office - are not impeachable offenses.
    Why do you refuse to call them out on their hypocrisy?
    It's not. Age does not excuse ignorance.
     
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    You said:
    Also... As I understand it.. Bill's approval ratings rose during the impeachment proceedings... Right now Trump's rating are falling.
    This is an argumentum ad populum fallacy.
    Google is your friend.
     
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    I want to believe.

    I also want to see these emails before I start doing the happy dance.
     
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    Of course.

    Sources say

    two federal law enforcement officials involved in an investigation of the matter told BuzzFeed.

    The law enforcement sources told

    The law enforcement sources familiar with Cohen's testimony


    Just another anonymously sourced hit piece, why would anyone comment on that crapola? :yawn:
     
  22. jugernot

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    I actually do not care. What I'm saying.. To spell it out for you.. Is that when Republican's tried to impeach Bill it was insignificant based upon the reason for doing so. Whereas with Trump.. "IF" proven true it would be exactly what Mueller was looking for in the first place.
     
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    That fallacy only applies to the extent that popular opinion is irrelevant to the decision. Popular opinion is very much relevant to impeachment.
     
  24. MrTLegal

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    You ignore your own hypocrisy. Unless you want to claim that your position changed because of some knowledge or lesson that you garnered from Democrats?
     
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    And yet, you brought it up.
    Federal felonies are never insignificant - YOU would have gone to prison.
    The Democrats held the position that said federal felonies, committed in office, were not impeachable offenses.
    Why do you refuse to call them out on their hypocrisy?
     

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