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No deal: Pelosi rejects Trump’s offer to legalize 'Dreamers' for wall money

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by US Conservative, Jan 19, 2019.

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I didn't parse your words. I didn't say that is what you said.

    In your heart of hearts, you know I'm right.
     
    Thought Criminal, Jan 19, 2019
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  2. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    Nothing passed the house unanimously. Moreover just because the House passes something doesn’t mean it goes right to the senate floor, the senate has their own rules and passes its own bills...bills are then sent to commitee to compromise on both chambers legislation...then passed, and signed into law. There was a show called School House Rocks that had a song calle d “I’m just a bill” you can YouTube it and learn. It might be helpful
     
    struth, Jan 19, 2019
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  3. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We already have walls along the border, the vast majority of illegal immigration is visa overstays, checkpoint crossings or dumps by ice.

    We need border security and immigration reform not just a “wall” that will stop none of the above.
     
    cd8ed, Jan 19, 2019
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  4. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes there are.

    What’s mitch scared of then?
     
    cd8ed, Jan 19, 2019
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  5. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s like asking a pig why it likes mud.

    It’s in their DNA: America sucks, everyone else is better.
     
    Texas Republican, Jan 19, 2019
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  6. Pants

    Pants Well-Known Member

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    Of course he was! He's been backed into a corner since he announced that he would be "proud to shut down the government and that he would own it". This stunt was all about 'showing America' his plan, thinking he could shame the dems. Thankfully, we have a speaker of the house with an iron will to stand up to a pathetic bundle of straw like Trump.
     
    Pants, Jan 19, 2019
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  7. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fixed that for ya :above:
     
    cd8ed, Jan 19, 2019
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  8. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    No there isn’t. He isn’t scared, he wants to compromise, she won’t.
     
    struth, Jan 19, 2019
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  9. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump never offered to legalize DACA recipients.
     
    rcfoolinca288, Jan 19, 2019
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  10. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is an anonymous forum. You can come right out and say that you are all for the destruction of America.
     
    Thought Criminal, Jan 19, 2019
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  11. Andrew Jackson

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    His "base" (a group that comprises about 25% of America, and is exponentially overrepresented at this forum) has clearly lost any perspective of political reality.

    At this point, they aren't even worth responding to.

    If they want to continue to talk in circles while seeking the validation of the pro-Trump echo chamber, it means little to me (as long as they abide by the rules of the forum).

    Besides, I find myself entertained by their constant comic relief.

    The Shutdown is 100% on Trump. Period.
     
    Andrew Jackson, Jan 19, 2019
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  12. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Officially the best post of the thread!

    [Yes, I've appointed myself arbiter of such things.]
     
    FreedomSeeker, Jan 19, 2019
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  13. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unanimous voice vote.
    A process in which mitch is holding up. Why do you think he is doing that.

    Try again, maybe without the condescension but I know that’s difficult for y’all
     
    cd8ed, Jan 19, 2019
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  14. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know you are dishonest so far by our conversations.

    You are wrong and lying.
     
    cd8ed, Jan 19, 2019
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  15. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. He wasn't. If it was truly up to the people, Trump would be sitting at home pouting.
     
    rcfoolinca288, Jan 19, 2019
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    So are Democrats afraid that they do not currently have enough Hispanic voters to ensure future elections?

    I mean, they passed up a reasonable deal. Trump probably just pissed off a sizable portion of his base with this offer. Most of us don't want to grant citizenship or protections to dreamers.

    I don't think this looks good for Democrats in the eyes of Hispanics either. So... good luck guys, with the stupid choices of your leadership.
     
    ModCon, Jan 19, 2019
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  17. cd8ed

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    How is trump compromising by demanding a wall must be included. If he switched the argument to items that would actually help the immigration issue (ie national everify, border surveillance, employer penalties, quicker deportations, visa monitoring, and so on) I would change to the republican side on this issue.

    I absolutely think we need more bipartisanship, just like the bill passed by both chambers of congress
     
    cd8ed, Jan 19, 2019
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  18. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell that "great negotiator" to collect the money from Mexico like he said he would.
     
    rcfoolinca288, Jan 19, 2019
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  19. FreedomSeeker

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    Time to DRAIN that sucker, then!
     
    FreedomSeeker, Jan 19, 2019
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  20. FreedomSeeker

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    Valid point.
     
    FreedomSeeker, Jan 19, 2019
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  21. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please show where Trump said he would grant citizenship to the DACA recipients.
     
    rcfoolinca288, Jan 19, 2019
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  22. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The vast majority of illegal immigration is visa overstays or at checkpoints.
    A wall is ineffective
     
    cd8ed, Jan 19, 2019
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  23. Andrew Jackson

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    True.

    But, it is what it is.

    Trump obviously hates America and wants to make gov't employees (and their families) suffer for his childish game of chicken.

    His election was obviously a horrific mistake.
     
    Andrew Jackson, Jan 19, 2019
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  24. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    DACA is not good for the country.
    The American people are against the wall
     
    cd8ed, Jan 19, 2019
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  25. perotista

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    Hispanics aren't about to jump on the Trump train even if he pushed DACA and Pelosi opposed it tooth and nail. However, I do think the proposed compromise is reasonable.
     
    perotista, Jan 19, 2019
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