They hunted and killed a baby elephant!

Discussion in 'Firearms and Hunting' started by truth and justice, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    Again... that legal aspect. I already explained it's an utter joke of an argument, since it's also legal somewhere to toss gay people of buildings.

    And it's far easier to make them white middle age men stop hunting than trying to change a corrupt dirt poor african nation.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so tell me how is it easier to get someone not todo something which is perfectly legal to do?
    now you make it illegal you have a fighting chance but to do that would require those African nations to make it illegal Sounds like a good position the UN should consider
    never mind we are talking about the same UN that puts nations on the human rights council that allows gays to be thrown off buildings
     
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    https://www.motsomi.com/tanzprice-list/
    3200 and a 2nd for just 600 bucks.

    And I sourced,... them parks don't work.
     
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    it came with a lot of figures and graphs,... so you're just lying pathetically to claim it was just an opinion peace.
     
  5. Injeun

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    Hmm. Doesn't look like a baby to me. And it has tusks. Does anyone know the true story behind these pictures, before the cut/paste and editorializing?
     
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    I quoted text that said it outright is a disaster
     
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    Figures and graphs being present does not mean what is being presented is actually legitimate. Relying on the presence of graphs is nothing more than an intellectually deficient appeal to authority.
     
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    a disaster that these African nations allowed promoted and profited off it happening
    but no condemnations for them
    its all the rich white mans fault
    your agenda is so transparent
    your racist class warfare of bash the rich white man
     
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    No more pizza deliveries for you!
     
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    You can toss a gay person of a building legally in some countries. So I fail to see how "it is legal" makes it a legit argument.
     
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    Its just an isolated facebook smear by some embittered liberal
     
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    Read everything National Geographic says with an open mind without looking for confirmation of your bias.
     
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    you claimed it was 22,000, and your source says its just 3,900.
    Everything else is just to get you there in an all inclusive environment.

    You think Trump would be happy with getting 3,900 for a trophy kill with this governmental shut down? lol It's a freaking little tip. And so obviously these "reservations" don't work as my sources prove with the numbers.
     
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    that 3900 is just the price of the animal its self that doesn't include all the other fees as in the governments cut
    learn some reading comprehension will you
     
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    You're probably right. I don't believe that a professional outfitter would organize the hunt of a baby elephant. Doesn't make sense.
     
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    It would be the same crap of fees, if you just took a photo. Learn to read better yourself
    That 3900 for killing an animal is not going to put a dent in any need for some budget. Get real. lol
     
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    I put up 2 sources who basically say the same thing..... both using numbers to back it up.
    That's a lot better than a source that only vents an opinion.
     
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    Haven't skimmed through the thread yet but I doubt if you'll find anyone defending this and I'd enjoy sticking those rifles up those guys asses
     
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    I agree but a baby elephant crosses a line with me
     
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    And the race card is played ignoring the fact that countries run by blacks are where these white guys go to kill large animals
     
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    Wrong on every count. Domestic livestock is slaughtered as soon as it's reached marketable weight, that's not a long life.
    As for comfortable wild herbivores live a very comfortable life without the help of man and I'd rather roam free than live in an overcrowded enclosure ankle deep in mud and feces eating from a feeding trough instead of browsing what nature supplies.
    Your point of view is unfortunately becoming more prevalent though as more people become so urbanized and lose touch with nature. It's a sign of the times.
     
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    no it wouldn't
    am I required to get a hunting license and buy deer tags if all I'm doing is going into the woods to take pictures of deer?
    What those African countries charge is equivalent as buying a hunting license and tags to go hunt in their country
     
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    Your point was that it adds a lot of money that get used in some good way. And that point has now been disproved. It aint a lot of money, compared to a tourist who comes over to take a picture.
     
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    controlled hunting is actually a part of humane conservationism
    If wasn't for deer hunting in my state deer would become over populated and starve hunting thins the population so they don't starve
    and its against the law to leave the deer after you kill it you have to take it to be processed for your consumption or that of others to consume
    a lot of deer meat is giving to charities as in soup kitchens or shelters to help feed the needy
     
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