Trump is a traitor

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Have you accepted that trump is a traitor yet?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. LibChik

    LibChik Well-Known Member

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    Many crimes carry that penalty but the justice system can recommend sentences. I'm not a judge and the judge will decide once the relevant convictions are in place.

    Whatever the appropriate punishment is, should be carried out. No one is above the law...no one. And my personal opinion is that trump, his family and cronies will be shown to have committed layers upon layers of crime...small ones...large ones...and everything in between. They should be held accountable like any other American.

    And if they conspired with the Russians to steal an election and meddle in hacks in a Democratic election...that is treason...period. If it continued to the point where trump was doing Putin's bidding with regard to NATO, etc..that rises to a higher level of treason. And its not looking good for Putin's gimp right now.

    The Democratic Congress will do its job and hold open public hearings and the truth will come out. Once that happens, justice will be done. The punishment should fit the crime...how that comes to pass should be fair. That's all I'm concerned about as a decent American voter.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    What should we do to those politicians who have accused Trump of treason if the charges are shown to have been fabricated from fake partisan opposition propaganda?

    "NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Jan 18 (Reuters) - Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office on Friday disputed key elements of a media report that President Donald Trump directed his former lawyer to lie to Congress about a Moscow real estate deal, raising questions about a story that has dominated U.S. news coverage for the past 24 hours.

    BuzzFeed News reported late on Thursday that Michael Cohen, Trump's former lawyer who is slated to go to prison for lying to Congress and other crimes, told investigators working for Mueller that Trump had instructed him to lie about efforts to build a skyscraper in Moscow while he was running for president."
    Reuters, U.S. special counsel disputes report Trump told lawyer to lie, By Reuters, Saturday, 19 January 2019.
    http://news.trust.org/item/20190119014049-f6f4x
     
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    Buzzfeed Cohen sounds like a street drug

    Lets get Huawei!!!

    Adam Schiff had eyes like black ciggarettes on face the nation today
     
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    I have. He hates the establishment and wants to rid us all of it's burden. Unfortunately, many don't like responsibilities and would rather the government make decisions for them. Therefore, he is a traitor of the system we have come to know.
     
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    best comment I heard today is Trump is an expert at creating crisis he can't manage
     
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  6. Ddyad

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    Yes, like the crisis at the border. How do you suppose Trump managed to launch all these caravans through Mexico without Cohen?
    Mueller should get on that. ;-)
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm Australian and despite the overwhelming majority of my countrymen agreeing with you, I do not.
     
  8. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah. America. That really triggers the left.
     
  9. Gorgeous George

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    I wasn't born with a silver spoon and never attended a military school.
    Trump's father probably made a huge donation to the academy for that ridiculous medal.

    Military trivia: Even though the us military doesn't give cleanliness medals they do punish poor hygiene by unwashed members which create medical problems for themselves. I knew a sgt who was busted, under the provisions of the UCMJ for
    getting a boil on his rectum as a result of poor bathing habits. Ouchie!
     
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    I really think so.
     
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    Trump is a traitor
    I'll wait until the Mueller report is out before making a final conclusion, but I do agree the evidence in the public domain is strong that Trump is at least a Russiaphile.
     
  12. Gorgeous George

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    The destruction of america by trumpism is what angers lefties. I should know. I'm one of them and I'm not the only one. Can you imagine that?
     
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    LOL, 'destruction of America'. What a laugh. You mean destruction of far left ideology that took hold trying to 'fundamentally change America'. That was the real destruction by any other name.
     
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    Such as? Could you cite examples to support your assertion?
     
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    Women's bathrooms for men? The denial of biology with innumerable genders? The socialization of anything? The PC movement against free speech? Obama's I can't legislate DACA legislating DACA? I could go on.
     
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    The Trump supporters announce their love America and many on the left call them Nazis for it.
     
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    Pelosi is a traitor, she puts immigrants before federal employees and wishes to fly off without sitting down with Trump to negotiate.
     
  18. Marine1

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    Well lets look at how Trump and Obama has reacted to Putin and Russia and see who looks like the servant.


    The Anti-Obama: Trump Selling Missile Defense To Poland ...
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/18299/anti-obama-trump-selling...
    Remember when Barack Obama capitulated to Russia in 2010 by removing missilelaunchers in Poland that neared the Russian border? There’s a new sheriff in town. On Wednesday, the Polish state news agency PAP reported that Poland’s government will buy the Patriot missile defense system from the U.S.


    1. Trump in Poland: U.S. To Sell Warsaw Arms to Stop 'Hot …
      www.newsweek.com/trump-poland-warsaw-us-arms-russia-missiles...
      In a move set to counter Russia’s reinforcement on NATO's borders, Poland and the U.S. Have agreed that Warsaw will purchase the American-made Patriot air defense missile, the Polish government announced Thursday. Trump delighted many in Poland when he announced he would be visiting the country ...

    2. Trump Sends Tank-Killing Missile To Fight Russia in ...
      www.newsweek.com/trump-tank-killing-missile-fight-russia-ukraine...
      The Trump administration approved the sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine on Friday as it continues to fight pro-Russian forces in the eastern part of the country, a move that has angered the Kremlin and signifies the U.S. …
    Did Trump give the order to open fire on Russia mercenaries that were coming up on our base and well over 100 of them were killed?

    It was Obama caught on an open mike telling the Russian delegate to tell Putin he'd have a better chance to work with them after the election. So it looks to me like three times Obama backed out with confrontations with Russia and three times Trump went right against them. Who looks like the traitor?



    The President of Ukraine came to Washington to get weapons to fight Russian backed insurgents trying to take over the country. Obama gave him uniforms, food, night vision glasses and blankets. No weapons.The Ukraine President said later you can't fight a war with blankets. As you can see from my post above, Trump gave Ukraine the weapons they needed.
     
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  19. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    That isn't the question. The question is,

    Who's criminal gang had over 100 secret meetings with the Russians and then lied about them all, under oath?

    Don't be a dupe. The truth is plain to see.

    Who admires despots and dictators and cold-blooded killers, but disses everyone from US war heroes to our greatest allies?

    Who is now stifling and degrading US security, under the guise of worrying about US security?
     
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    You show me where they had 100 secret meetings with them. Give me a reliable source.

    He disagreed with the General on pulling out of Syria. He has that right. It was one of the promises he made to get elected.

    He isn't degrading our security with about 700 billion dollars to rebuild the military that Obama let go to hell. Here is degrading our security and once again it was Obama. Get up on your facts.

    Trump had to put lots of money in the military, Obama starved it till it was in such bad shape, over half to three quarters of all Marine and Navy fighters could no longer fly for lack of spare parts. That was just the air part. Things the Left will never tell you.

    Grounded: Nearly two-thirds of US Navy’s strike fighters ...
    https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2017/02/06/grounded-nearly-two...
    Overhauls — "availabilities" in Navy parlance — are being canceled or deferred, and when ships do come in they need longer to refit. Every carrier overall for at least three years has run long, and some submarines are out of service for prolonged periods, as much as four years or more. One submarine, the Boise, has lost its diving certification

    70% of Marine Aircraft Can't Fly - …
    https://www.independentsentinel.com/70-of-marine-aircraft-cant-fly
    Out of 276 F/A-18 Hornet strike fighters in the Marine Corps inventory, only about 30% are ready to fly, according to statistics provided by the Corps. Similarly, only 42 of 147 heavy-lift CH-53E Super Stallion helicopters are airworthy.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Apparently only 51 are confirmed.

    You are swooning over right-wing propaganda points and ignoring the facts in your face.

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/21/politics/trump-russia-by-the-numbers/index.html
     
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    Why would he meet with the Russians and not allow a US translator?
    Why did he confiscate the notes from a US translator in another meeting and hide the information from his own people?

    This is the unannounced Russian meeting in the White House right after taking office.


    Hey Comrades, we pulled it off!!! We duped the fools HAHAHA!!!!
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    He was at that time trying to get Russia to be hard with N. Korea. Not go around the embargo and put Pressure on her to help get N.Korea to do away with her nuclear weapons.

    He confronted Russia about the attack on our elections and Putin said no. I have no doubt Trump didn't believe Putin, but at the news conference when they asked him about it, what was he to say sitting right next to Putin? We he said he didn't but I know he was lying through his teeth? Just how far do you think he would get with Russia for help after calling Putin a liar?

    Do you believe for one minute that is going to get our intelligence not to try and stop Russian and China breaches? I would have hoped after the meeting with Putin, Trump would either go or make a call to our intelligence and explain to them why he said what he did.

    You have a problem with the shut down, make a call to Pelosi.
     
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    Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see what most of those calls and contacts amounted to. I know the ones they brought charges up on dealing with Russia didn't amount to a hill of beans and so far none of the people who have been charged, had nothing to do with collusion.
     

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