The REAL Reason the Hard Left Supports Gun Control

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Ethereal, Jan 26, 2019.

  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Members of the hard left are known as zealots for gun control.

    Wherever they come into power throughout America, they invariably restrict and even ban gun ownership. Cities like Chicago and DC had gun control policies that were effectively city-wide bans on guns. Democrats want to bring the same failed gun control policies to the entire country.

    They claim it's because of things like "safety", but it's really about their desire for total control of society.

    They want to be in charge of everyone and everything in America, but they cannot do that while millions of Americans remain well-armed. Their desire for gun control is nothing more than a strategy to disarm and disable their political opponents.
     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The real reason the hard right wants everyone to be armed is so they can kill people with impunity. They are suicidal nutcases who want to take several people with them as they are killed along with their victims in a final "blaze of glory". All of these latest massacres are just people "living the dream". Their final agenda is to achieve "kirisute gomen" in America, the old Japanese custom of " cut you down, so sorry" where a samurai could kill people just to test the edge on his sword.


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    You need to get real. I don't know of anyone who wants everyone to be armed. I don't want to kill someone with impunity and I know of anyone who wants to kill people with impunity. If this was anywhere close to true there would be a lot more gun deaths.
     
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    66% of Americans favor more stringent gun controls. Source

    That's far more than just the left.
     
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    The OP is at least based on a certain amount of reality while yours is based on paranoia and a misunderstanding of reality. In Japan the reason the Samurai could get away with that abominable practice is that the peasantry were completely disarmed. Guns were outlawed in Japan during the reifn of Nobunaga because a peasant with a gun easily trumped a Samurai with a sword. And the Samurai, the worst sort petty and not infrequently landless nobles, couldn't have.that.
     
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    Well, I do know people who want to be armed, and some who boast publicly about carrying a concealed carry permit.

    I don't really understand it. I don't understand the mentality of folks who define their self worth or masculinity by wanting to be able to brandish a weapon. But I see quite a bit of it from a small minorty of people.

    The NRA has always been an open fraud. It promotes a lot of wholesome things, family togetherness, safe hunting practices and the like. But it spends 90% of its energy and money as a lobby for the weapons industry, one which was largely financed by the gun maker's customers. That is, until the Russians came along.

    I'm certain that we're going to hear a lot more of that in the future.

    And I have never understood the mentality that actually believes that the only reason that these folks are "free" is because they have a gun in the kitchen drawer.
     
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    I want more stringent gun control. However, the left has not proposed any gun control that will actually work or which would not violate one of our rights guaranteed under the constitution.
     
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    That is a lot different than all.
    You got it right. "a small minority of the people".
    I am not free "only" because I have a gun. Personally, I keep a gun for self defense because I know law enforcement is too far away to be of use.
    Surprising. An organization actually spends money on a subject related to the organization it supports.
     
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    Until you define what more stringent is, the number is meaningless. No one wants crazy people and murderous wankers to have guns. The problem is how do you go about determining who they are Ulyaov and his cohorts would argue that your desire to own a fire arm for any purpose at all automatically makes you a candidate for murderous wanker status..
     
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    brandishing is illegal & responsable owners dont do that, if you've witnessed it please report it to authorities because those that brandish shouldn't be allowed to carry...
     
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    i don’t want everyone armed. many people should not have guns. unfortunately the laws your side so feverishly enact do not prevent those people from having them.
     
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    What laws would?
     
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    they didn’t ask me. odd.
     
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    we can start by keeping violent criminals in prison for decades longer. there we can be sure they will not have a gun. how about life in prison for using a firearm in the commission of a crime. we can start there.
     
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    so wait, are you telling me there is a reason hitler disarmed the jews?
     
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    And the laws your side enacts and the laws your side prevent from being enacted make it easier for criminals and crazies to get firearms and use them on civilians and police.
     
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    wrong. no criminal is legally allowed to purchase or possess a firearm. nor any mentally adjudicated person.
     
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    And yet it is well documented that straw man purchases put guns into the hands of criminals.........and the Right has not only done nothing about it but rabidly defended the gun show loophole.
     
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    What gun control do you want?
     
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    There ARE a lot of gun deaths from random massacres.. When you consider that one nearly always dies in doing so and there is no reason whatsoever to do them it's quite a few. When you add in all the others that are called just "unsolved crimes" then you can see it's quite a lot.

    I don't want to kill anyone and don't know anyone who does either. It is an affliction that is, thankfully, still rare, but becoming more commonplace every day.
     
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    Too expensive. We'd have no buildings but prisons.
     
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    More people in prisons for longer hasn't worked. The US has very high rates of recidivism resulting in a very high economic and tax cost. Look at countries with lower rates for answers on what works.
     
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    Cowards need to walk around with a gun.
     
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    You actually believe this?

    And this is coming from the side that wants to regulate sex lives and marriage and female reproductive health. You don't want your tax dollars going to female contraception, yet you're silent when your tax dollars pay for your ED pills.
     
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    He is as real as the OP. ;)
     

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