Russian mercenaries reportedly in Venezuela to protect Maduro

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  1. saveliberty

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    According to some folks our leader works for Russia, so I guess its all one sided.
     
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    and why not? CIA men had already won the Cold War against those of the KGB, reportedly a mighty organisation (which is no more there somehow), so this time they simply bribed the Ukr officials, hired provokers to incite unrest and grabbed control over the local media. Ukraine is easily corrupted.
     
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    If they're mercenaries, then they're there for money, not politics, and not for Putin or Russia.
     
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    Maduro just got busted trying to make a sneaky withdrawal of 1.2 billion in venezuela's gold from the bank of england. Unfortunately for Maduro the f**kup, he isn't even half as cunning and skilled at stealing a country's wealth as his mentor, comrade Hugo and his clan were. Busted!

    Maybe the multi billionaire Chavez family, who did successfully steal billions from the people of venezuela, will help Hugo's stooge buttboy Maduro out with some cash as he runs for his life.
     
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    I don't care where Brazil and Colombia stick their noses. That is their business. I'm concerned about our nose.
     
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    The disputed islands (Paracel Islands and the Spratly Islands) in the South China Sea who ever has legal claim over them, (Chi-Coms, Vietnam, Philippines, Taiwan) under international law can not be militarized.

    It's like when the United States acquired the island of Guam after the Spanish-American War the United States wasn't allowed to militarize the island of Guam.

    So on December 7th 1941 the largest weapon a couple hundred Marines had to defend the island was water cooled .50 cal. machine guns.
    You just can't sink a battleship with a .50 cal machine gun.
     
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    If just a couple of infantry battalions of Maguro's military breaks away and stand behind Falco you are going to have a civil war or actually Proxy War #2 of Cold War ll.

    Who started Cold War ll ? The Democrats.

    What was Cold War ll first proxy war ? The Syrian civil war.
     
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    There may be a basement suite somewhere in Moscow for Maduro, just like Yanukovich from Ukraine, Assad at some point?

    Wait , didn't Putinka provide some "loans$$$" for Maduro.....he cant be that tight for cash yet?
     
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    I hate to break your bubble, but ISIS only exists in the Eastern part of the Euphrates, and that's under the control of Washington. Once the US leaves, ISIS will be eliminated. Of course I'm disregarding Turkey that is in control of Idlib where the terrorists are thriving, and that has its troops ready to invade Syria when the US leaves.

    The Kurds to protect themselves from Turkey are having talks to rejoin Syria so they can be under their legal protection. It's doubtful though the US will leave the Syrian oil rich area it now occupies.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's not disregard the amounts given towards regime change by NGO's such as USAID by the CIA and George Soros' 'Open Society Foundations. As an example, Soros' tax free 'Open Society Foundation' supported 40 organizations alone in a tiny nation such as Macedonia.

    I think the $5 billion given outright by our government was a small amount compared to the actual amount given towards the coup. Other than that, there are also the mafia families who were put in charge and the Nazi militias on their payroll to do their dirty work.

    As for information warfare, RT was banned and the major network in Kiev is owned by Poroshenko, that way people will only know what he wants them to know. Right now he doesn't have a chance of winning the election, so he's getting facebook to help him. Oh well, what else is new?:roll:
     
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    Oh my God, don't tell me Venezuela was trying to steal Venezuela's own gold from the Bank of England. Horrors! How low can you get.

    But don't fear all is well. Once the bankers grab it they will never let it go. They're not stupid.


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    Ah yes gold, gold and more gold!
     
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    Its not just possible.....its reality.


    On December 22,Venezuela enacted a law granting Cuban judicial and security forces extensive police powers within Venezuela, Miami's El Nuevo Herald reported Sunday. Under the new code, Cuban officials are allowed to investigate, seize, detain, and interrogate Venezuelans and Cubans living in the Bolivarian Republic.

    Venezuela Outsources Intelligence Activities to Cuba | www ...
    www.vcrisis.com/index.php?content=letters/200501260936
     
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    Yet South American Countries have been complaining about Maduro and his corruption since he started running opposition parties into the ground. Since he caused the massive refugee problem in that region. Since he failed to help the poor.

    Tell me.....can the S American Countries rely on the UN to assist them in any way?
     
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    S America is our backyard. Southern Command is our weakest link.

    The US cannot remain a Superpower by giving up influence to Socialistic/Communist Ideology. If anywhere in the world the US needs to be involved. It is in our hemisphere.

    Its not far better to let Maduro kill off a third of Venezuelas population and then let the rest of the world blame the United States for not getting involved and de facto supporting genocide.
     
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    Putin and Maduro pulled a real stupid move that started this whole thing in Venezuela now - in exchange for loans Ruissan Rosneft was supposed to receive assets from Venezuela’s oil company, as well as drilling rights. The collateral to the debt that Venezuela owes to Russia is Citgo.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenr...-a-look-at-oil-russia-and-trump/#1163fc07394c

    Russia is loaning money to Venezuela knowing that it won’t pay back, which at some point will give it the ability to control Citgo - major oil company in the US which operates many refineries.
    This is an obvious national security issue and I won’t be surprised if we go into Venezuela with full force, decapitate the country and install more sane leadership.

    Maduro should have known better that you don’t F with Americans like that.
    And Pootin won’t be able to do anything about that - he just gambled with his citizens money, and if he loses he won’t lose sleep over the loss.

    In a way, this really is about oil, but it’s not about taking it away from Venezuela - it’s about preventing hostile forces from taking control of a major oil company that operates in the US.
     
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    I was referring to Venezuela (thread topic), but since I found out about James Baker's' "not an inch eastward" on NATO... sure... CIA has a finger in the Ukrainian pie also
     
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    China also create the majority of the worlds new money through loans, in the last decade more than what was printed by the U.S. Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank, and the Bank of Japan combined
     
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    Yes and they make payday loans to poor african nations that the natives cannot repay
     
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    Sure... he's corrupt, but I find it really difficult to buy into his corruption as the reason why Maduro should be replaced, because in the past the CIA assassinated good leaders like Omar Torrijos and Jaime Roldos, who couldn't be corrupted by the Americans.

    Yes Maduro is corrupt but that is not the problem... the problem is he is siding with the Chinese and the Russian.
     
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    America has done the same, in fact when you think about it... the Chinese are great at copying stuff and stealing Intellectual property... is it any surprise then that even the Belt and Road programme is an American rip off.
     
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    So, we're just supposed to accept that the CIA controls how Venezuelans and Ukrainians think, are we? We make them hate dictators and corrupt, Russian-controlled liars?
     
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    Don't be obtuse D... propaganda and bribery is the name of the game
     
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    You just make this stuff up and expect us to believe it.
     
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    so you think the CIA never bribes politicians and wouldn't use propaganda :lol: ... oh to be so naive again
     
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    Yes Russia and China who push a Communist agenda.

    So its okay for Maduro to squash opposition Leaders and other Parties that oppose him? Its okay for Maduro to tell the people of Venezuela that their votes only matter when they vote for him, huh?
     

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