Trump golf club fires 12 illegal immigrant workers, lawyer says

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    He said that it was legal to have them working. Since he is a liar, it sounds just like him
    Trump's New Jersey golf club employs undocumented immigrants, women say
    "I told them that I don't have papers, I don't speak English and that I was an immigrant. They said, 'No, it doesn't matter.'"
     
  2. struth

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    No
     
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    When did he say this?
     
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    "The article you linked highlights the contractor hired the illegals, Trump fired them and refused to honor the Contract after the fraud was discovered....they sued, he ended up settling. I wish more employers would take such a stand against contractors that do such practices"
     
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    Article. More BS from the media.

    How about going to the actual case to get the facts?

    https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/774/802/1425921/

    Excerpts: Emphasis added for clarity

    Thomas Macari was a vice president of Trump-Equitable and its manager in charge of the demolition of the Bonwit Teller Building​

    Shortly thereafter other Polish workers also asked Szabo's help in getting paid by Kaszycki. Szabo notified Macari on April 26 that there were new claims for unpaid wages totaling $12,176. Tr. 176-77. This amount grew as time went on and the claims were not satisfied, until by July 17, the claims totaled $103,944. Once again, Macari was consistently and deeply involved in activities designed to get Kaszycki to pay the Polish workers. See e.g., Tr. 180; 182-191. For example, Macari threatened to withhold Kaszycki's progress payment until the Polish workers were paid. Tr. 178.

    On or about June 23, 1980, Macari decided that the Polish workers were no longer needed, and they were let go.

    On May 9, 1980 on behalf of Trump-Equitable, Macari took over the finances of the demolition job from Kaszycki.​
     
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    I am not going back to this stuff. Let's move on. If you don't believe me, then so be it.
     
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    That statement came from Struth, and not media bullshit. This happened long after the polish worker thing.
     
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    Yeah..he fired them..after finding the fraud
     
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    Yeah...sorry maybe you are misremembering
     
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    Well, I guess that's one way to run from the history of misrepresenting facts regarding the Trump Organization knowingly hiring illegal aliens.

    The fact is, the record shows the Trump Organization has not engaged in the practice of purposeful hiring of illegal aliens, and I have found no evidence, article, or quote from the President stating he has knowingly hired illegals, or it is ok to do so.

    There is evidence some middle management has turned a blind eye, or in the case of the Bonwit Teller demolition and the Polish Workers, the court found the T.O. VP had to have known the workers were undocumented, given his involvement and efforts to get them paid.

    Most every one of these cases the liberal media tries to manipulate and message against the President has an actual legal proceeding and document available for review. The fact is, they lie when they present it for their followers consumption.
     
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    Lol, they sued because he wouldn't ****ing pay after the work was done. Pretty obvious you didn't read the article. It's amazing how these illegals keep showing up at his places of business.
     
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    Wow. You folks are a joke.
     
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    I guess when completely uninformed on the issue, the best you can do is lob insults.

    SOP for those who know very little.
     
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    That’s not what the court documents highlights. It’s not really amazing to see illegals working construction sites or house keeping or seeing them forge documents. What is unusual is seeing a business owner fire these folks when the fraud is discovered
     
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    No I am not misremembering.
     
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    The Trump organization hired many illegal immigrants on his properties and he knew all about it. And that's ok in my world. Mexicans are the best laborers and
    show up for work, don't whine and meow about their pay. Where, as a business
    person, is he going to find Americans who will work in 100 degree heat, not moan and groan all day and be competent? He has a business to run.
     
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    You really dont know what trump knew

    But based on your assumption you were bitterly critical

    Now trump properities are firing the illegal alien job thieves and you hate trump even more
     
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    It’s quite possible since apparently no media outlet covered it. Maybe it was just a dream
     
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    Read the post again, because I favor hiring qualified people and don't care about their paperwork. He would be stupid not to hire the qualified laborer for his properties. I have added to that post.
    My point is that Trump doesn't follow his own rules. When he had that ridiculous "Buy American Week" while he was manufacturing clothes in China, the excuse he gave was that there was nobody in America who could do it. Really? Not for that price, maybe.
     
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    I heard it. "I said to myself, I said to myself" at the time that I thought it was illegal, but maybe not. I am not opposed to Trump hiring qualified laborers for his properties regardless of their paperwork.
     
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    Sounds like you were dreaming....because if that happened, it would be all over the news.
     
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    Qualified implies legal. This continual effort to give businesses a free pass is the reason why there are 11 million illegals here. They can be legal if the want and hire all the qualified, legal immigrants they want. Yes, it requires normal paoer work and paying them at least minimum wage. Businesses look at illegals like extra profit and fewer complaints.
     
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    Its not stupid to obey the law and hire Americans instead of ilegal aliens

    I understand the issue from the standpoint of employers

    And from the US workers point of view

    And so does trump
     
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    It is you who knows very little. It is par for the course (no pun intended) for a business person to hire the most qualified laborers for the job, and that is what Trump did. He knew all about it and there were many of them because they WORK, not like the American laborer
    who is lazy, complains a lot, may not show up, etc. What he did is necessary for his operation, their status be damned.
     
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    Its one of the reasons

    When the corrupt politicans allow open borders illegal aliens flood in like cockroaches looking for a meal

    That creates an opportunity for employers to hire cheap labor

    And if just one dishonest contractor (often times a hispanic US citizen) hires illegals with no consequences then pretty soon everyone offering that service has to also
     

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