F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

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  1. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Trump's connection to Putin are NOT oblique.
     
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    Well, maybe, depending on the definition, but they have to be semi-direct and dirty to really matter. Trump also made kissy faces with Kim Jon Un. I make nothing of that.
     
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    Still just process crimes.
     
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    Liking another nation isn't the same thing as kissing their arse in public. But then again, do you get a paycheck in rubles?
    I have been saying that the Mueller investigation, the indictments, the convictions and his final report will determine who is guilty and who is not. But IMO trump and his mob are guilty as sin, not only of numerous federal election laws AND conspiracy to defraud the United States by providing politically sensitive data to russian operatives. The dog's breakfast of Cambridge analytics and Bannon's actions are of a whole other cloth of course.

    But no worries, be happy. "Don't believe what you see and hear and read I said yesterday, believe what I say today, believe me" and his acolytes march along willingly.

    As for being miles ahead of me, I see you have trump delusion syndrome.
     
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    Which two members are those and what was their 'colluding' all about?
    Never mentioned Uranium One but it should certainly be investigated, given that the Clinton Foundation money laundering machine was given, in a very unusual move, $145 million from the Russians. But as Robert Mueller was head of the FBI at the time, how likely is that?
     
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    If it was Putin's aim to disrupt the US political system and turn Americans against each other then he certainly succeed. The man is an evil genius.
     
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    It's all they got. Feelings trump facts.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the 'so many other examples' are anything like these two then the country has little to fear. In fact Trump is surrounded by members of the Intel community and can never act alone.

    Here's a helpful article. https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/13/trumps-russia-policy-is-better-than-obamas/
     
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    There is no such thing as "just" a process crime. Its a serious felony, Is it also "just" a jail sentence if guilty?
     
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    Paul Manafort, his campaign chair providing sensitive internal polling data to a russian agent.
    Trump Jr. meeting with russian agents - a foreign adversary that the campaign had been warned was attempting to infiltrate the campaign and interfere in the elections and was obligated to report the contact but lied his arse off.

    He accused without a single shred of credible evidence. Tired and worn out but forever alive.
     
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    "Sensitive Internet polling data"? What 'sensitive' data was that? There are dozens of polls taken regularly and why would one be more 'sensitive' than another?
    What "Russian Agents" are you referring to and what went on at that meeting? What ''lies" were told?
    Are you claiming that the Clinton Foundation never received millions from the Russians or that the Uranium wasn't sold or that Muelller wasn't head of the FBI at the time? Which is it?
     
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    The Pres. is trying to teach Hollywood, the fake news reporters and anchors, and RESIST people how too read and write first.

    Fake dossiers, NYT, Wash.Post CNN, NBC morons can't even read the facts from their own phony anonymous sources, saying the Russia collusion faked conspiracy theory is and was totally bogus from the start.
     
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    What sources are these?
     
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    "obstruct asstroturf movement?" What the hell is that?
     
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    Hollywood, the fake news reporters and anchors, and RESIST people



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    It is a crime, but not a crime of collusion or conspiracy with another country. Isn't that what this is all supposed to be about?
     
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    Oh yes, and, of course, don't forget The Democrat Party obstruct asstroturf movement in the House and Senate

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    Not sure where you detected a whine in my post.
     
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    How was Trump useful to them? They didn't need Trumps help to post fake face book accounts. Obama knew it was occurring but told the CIA to stand down on counter intelligence operations to stop it. The useful idiots here was the Obama administration who took the Russian Dossier and made it news.
     
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    Colluding to do what? Create fake face book accounts? They didn't need anyones help to do that.
     
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    You are very trusting of a man with a solid record of proven untruthfulness.
     
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    What right does the CIA, FBI in illegally wiretapping Trump Towers during the campaign, before a guy is EVEN ELECTED?

    I think that it is a pretty good sign the National Security, Police States of America are totally out of control.









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    It appears you are not familiar with the extensive private polling data (rather different and far more detailed than a public opinion poll) nor the methods applied to such data.


    Manafort went to Europe and met Klimkov (sic) to pass the data to him.
    What lies? Were you following the multiple revisions to Jr. original statement? Or is this just another tactic to keep insisting that you know absolutely nothing of what has been going on for the past two years?


    Er, Yes the Clinton foundation did not receive millions from the russians. The CANADIAN owner of the company sold his company two years BEFORE the Uranium one deal was approved by the CFIUS.

    Or is this small but entire relevant fact one you simply choose to ignore in order to propagate this bullshit accusation?
     
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    No, "any other crimes that might arise from the investigation". Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the scope of the Mueller investigation.

    And I agree, that it doesn't say anything about collusion (which is conspiracy). It remains to be seen what mueller has to say about all that, but so far it is obvious he is building up the overall case in layers. He's got the Russians, he's got one who definitely colluded (Manafort) and a bunch of liars trying to cover up their statements wrt what went on. And it's rather obvious there is more to come.

    STay tuned, more announcements are sure to follow.
     
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    Wait for it---"Hey, man---where's the evidence? AND WHATABOUTHILLARY!!??"
     
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