The US Plot to Exploit Venezuela

Your heart has to go out to the Venezuelan people. The government went from sharing more of the oil wealth with the people to damaging the industry in a perfect storm of reduced oil prices, incompetent management, and anti-business governance that discouraged new capital investment by outsiders with technology they industry needs.

 

No I'm upset that the US thinks it has some inaniable right to decide on another nation's constitution.

 

He didn't know that or anything about vz.neither does Trump.

 

Venezuela isn't a crossroads country between warring religious types and would in no event become another Syria. But the answer to your question is, "No!"

[/FONT]What are you carrying on about now?

 

Hasn't happened so what's your problem?

 

Don't believe your own lieing eyes.



The facts on the ground.

 

You mean like Stalin and Lenin did ? Should we make 100 million Americans die of hunger ? killed by the cold, or just with hammer blows ?
Maybe the Khmer Rouge did in Cambodia ?
Order in the house ! put some 50 million in concentration camps and 50 million in re-education camps, maybe 1% of them will return alive, if that is even called life.

 

Fanaticism.

 

About 3 decades ago.

 

Then you know the controversies and legal problems they had with us oil companies.

 

Observing a 'propaganda blitz' in action. Even those with eyes wide shut cannot fail to see a well coordinated government & media designer campaign when it takes off in full technicolour

http://www.medialens.org/index.php/...boJjRvAOCryeUl5mmFSDhZDk_4Ahef1vGfs6iaNBlYx4Q

 

Well Washington needn't have worried then. Chavez put Venezuela's only significant industry in the hands of his corrupt political allies, enriched his family, wrecked the agricultural industry, drove out private investment, wasted a fortune on expensive military toys, gave away oil, set up social programs that were only affordable with a really high oil price, failed to save any money and drove the country into debt.

Now the oil he sells to Russia & China pays down debt rather than earning hard currency. Washington, the nation that was apparently determined to wreck Venezuela, was the nation's main source of vital hard currency and the light crude needed to keep the industry running well. For some reason, despite its alleged determination to destroy Venezuela, the US government waited 20 years to block oil purchases from Venezuela.

 

An interesting Q & A with economist Michael Hudson that gives insights to the US role in Venezuelan oil.

https://www.greanvillepost.com/2019...Bda8ZHcQABgnrDUqDwaxiG6egJcEccQduT5-QgCI5uffw

 

I also know that staffing a state run oil company with corrupt political hacks and military men is a really bad idea.

 

The following article from William Engdahl on what he thinks is behind the US regime change attempt in Venezuela is a veiled strategy to weaken the House of Saud:

http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO3Feb2019.php

 

Depends on who you ask. From the 1943s thru the early 1970s they were getting a 50,50 revenue split which was fair. By the early 1970s they passed laws for a phased nationalization with no buy out.. also fair. Easy pickings were a thing of the past. We screwed it up just like the British screwed up Iran.

 

For some reason you have used a Guardian piece from 2012 that fails to cover the subsequent collapse of the 'Bolivarian Revolution' due largely to its own internal failings. GDP per capita didn't rise as sharply as claimed, though it did rise sharply. It is now back at the 1999 figure, but with inflation out of control & a worthless currency - the fault of a government that has criminally mismanaged the economy and crushed any democratic attempts to change its direction.

Oh, and illiteracy rates barely changed under Chavez. They were under 8% when he came to power and have dropped by about 3%, which may simply be due to older, illiterate Venezuelans dying. In other words, literacy rates in Venezuela were and are around the same level as a bunch of other Latin American nations, most of whom didn't have to become mismanaged dictatorships to achieve it.

Chavez could have used the money from oil to set up sustainable programs that could be funded even in times of low oil prices. He could have supported the nation's democratic structures and free press. Failed on all counts. His successor is even worse and has driven millions from Venezuela and is starving most of the rest.

meanwhile, the brainwashed supporters of the failed 'revolution' blame everyone but the people who wrecked it - the Chavistas themselves.

 

Yes. They wanted to reap the rewards of the efforts and invenstments of American companies. We americans seem to fall for it too often.

 

I like the Russian system better. Send the troops.

 

You ever heard of citgo?

 

I'm so sick of Trumpists crowing that not matter what Trump does, "Clinton would've been worse" crap.
This is the 68th regime change attempt since WW2, but hey, let's do it again since it has worked so 'well' in the past.

Phase 3 - Profit!


The U.S. 12-step method to conduct regime change
Step Four: Culture of plunder.
Step Eight: Social distress leads to migration.
Step Ten: Who’s the real president?
Step Eleven: Make the economy scream
Step Twelve: Go to war.

 

Threatening to invade another country is a form of interference.

Discussing a coup with people inside another country is a form of interference.

And one would have to be unbelievably naive to believe that such discussions are not being backed up by covert action inside Venezuela.

 

Phonies pretending to care about Venezuela while the Saudi and US governments starve millions of innocent Yemenis... fancy that.

 

If the jihadis stop attacking KSA there would be no war. Maybe you should stop Iran.

 

More disgusting apologia for Saudi Arabia's mass murder campaign in Yemen.