AOC telling it like it is. MONEY TALKS.

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  1. James Evans

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    You very well may be right.
     
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    Just noticed you are new to the forum. Welcome and good post.
     
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    The headline reads “Money Talks”

    and money funneled to welfare bums in exchage for their vote is what I am talking about
     
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    Then make a thread about. Stop de-railing my thread.

    And most of these "bums" you speak of are elderly and/or disabled. Have you no empathy for your common man? The right seems to be almost sociopathic in the way it views other citizens. I find it quite sickening.
     
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    I made my point about socialist corrupting the political system too

    Since you cant refute it there is no reason for me to say more
     
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    My mother in law has this same issue with understanding the neurological differences between people. She works for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program or snap program (I still call it food stamps) and can't for the life of her figure out why these people can't make their appointments on time or fill out their paperwork properly. She has seen inspirational movies about people who have overcome and thinks all people have hidden abilities that can rocket them out of mental illness and or deficiencies that keep them from succeeding in life. This is how children think, why can't Davy play football or be good in school like me?

    For the past 10,000 years before social welfare programs nations and cities were filled with poverty and murder and without understanding it that's where you want this country to be.

    Reagan came close
     
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    Reading your post I’m not quite sure if you are “fer” or “agin” my position

    So I’ll just say that most people on welfare could support themselves

    though if lt might require a steep learning curve for some of them
     
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    The military is socialism. Shall we stop funding it with tax money? What about police depts.? Fire depts.? Socialist programs have strengthened our society.
     
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    Trump is doing his best. Tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy. Taking the teeth out of the EPA so companies can pollute the air and water without consequence. Stripping consumers of their rights. Denying climate change to help the bottom line of the fossil fuel and coal industry. Defunding social programs. It's criminal.
     
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    The military my fit your defination of socialism

    But if so its the last thing I want to see for the rest of America

    Formations, roll call

    Unquestioning obedience to orders from the chain of command

    Even if ordered to kill or be killed in a hail of bullets

    Yes you get three meals a day and free healthcare

    And its the only practical way to have an army

    But thats no way to run a country
     
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    You have that backward. Business corrupts politicians because politicians are corrupt and allow it. The purpose of business is to maximize profits (a good thing for society.) It does whatever is legal and effective to do that. Government's purpose is to serve the public and the corporations. Not to allow itself to be bribed by anyone. There is nothing so corrupt as politics. Take the money out of it and it will be less corrupt.
     
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    The purpose of a lobby is to bring various ideas to lawmakers, not to bribe them. Make the bribes illegal.
     
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    I guess we should go back to cigarette advertising, huh?
     
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    So your cool with the military being a socialist program but don't want things like the police dept, fire debt, etc? I just want to understand your position here. And the military is quite obviously funded by tax dollars so it is socialism.

    When was the last time you read the constitution? In it it specifically gives congress the right to tax its citizens for common defense, common WELFARE, and to pay down Nat'l debt. If you don't like the constitution take it up with your representatives.

    And don't double space your comments like it emphasizes your point. It doesn't. It just takes up more room.
     
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    Wrong. Politicians are employees of the government who answer to voters. Corporations are nowhere in the mix. If you think a corporation can tell government what to do, you don't understand things at all. Corporations can and do bribe politicians because the politicians are corrupt and it is legal for the corporations to bribe them. See anything wrong in that?
     
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    So to you the price of a public fire department is forcing me to let homeless people live in my spare bedroom?

    If so then I am for privatizing the FD and schools
     
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    Thanks AOC, for this great flash of brilliance.
    Who knew that the all mighty buck trumped everything thing else.
    I feel much more enlightened now.
     
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    You think there are no laws regarding bribes of public officials by lobbyists?
     
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    Gee, went way off topic on that one. Care to try a political example?
     
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    How you get from funding a fire dept. to letting homeless people live in your house is God's own mystery. You should read what you are spouting and think about it. You sound like a crazy person. I'm not exaggerating.
     
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    I don't approve of political advertising so I don't watch it. Sorry.
     
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    Not for the lobbyists.
     
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    Didn't miss the point. Corporations buy politicians both R & D. Unions buy politicians but only D. It happens.

    And yes, she is dumb. Economics degree and she thinks socialism will be better than capitalism. NO economic system has lifted more people out of poverty than capitalism.

    Now, did you read her communist manifesto faux Green Deal? You know, the one where she would outlaw planes and pay people who were unwilling to work?

    If you don't call that dumb, that's on you James.
     
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    If you just look at a dictionary and nothing else it would seem that government works that way. During the financial collapse it became common knowledge that the reason for the collapse was politicians were being paid large sums of money by corporations to let the corporations write the laws and tax codes that govern corporations. The was government was warned more than a year before the collapse that this was going to happen but because their vast majority of their pay checks were coming from the people benefiting from the bubble and not the American people they chose to let things continue.

    Then the financial institutions started stealing/foreclosing on thousand of peoples homes who were not in default and threatened that the economy would collapse if we didn't give them our money, trillions of dollars of our money which they used to gave themselves hundreds of millions in bonuses. Some of them got in "trouble" for it but it was a fraction of the profits they received. Again all of this is common knowledge. And then nothing changed, lawmakers are still working hand and hand with their bosses on everything.

    The biggest donors (or as they have been called for decades now bribes) made the most money off the collapse which is not surprising since they knew it was coming ahead of time.

    Edit: lol This is for everyone. I never made it past "Lets play a game", twice now. I know this information by heart and couldn't take more then 3 second of her voice.
     
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    That's not what I got. He wants to stop gov't from being bought with bribes to cater to multinational corporations, at the expense of the working Americans.
    How did you miss that?
     

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