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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Jimmy79, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, most of the problem is very informed people have gotten their hands/ballots of uninformed people and voted for them. Early voting and absentee ballots encourage ballot harvesting which the democrat party has weaponized.
     
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    Pathetic. Not only do you not answer my question, you sink into the ignorant rantings of the "nazi" equivalent.
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    So you're saying that Republicans are incapable of swaying the votes of less informed people because Democrats are "very informed" and use their intelligence to sway voters?

    So are Republicans too lazy to sway voters or not intelligent enough to sway voters? Are Republicans too lazy to start media companies or not intelligent enough to start media companies? I hear a lot of whining from conservatives here - but that seems to be their only solution.
     
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    That's backwards. I'm your friend by being HONEST with you. You are stomping and raving about republicans when the real threat is from the corrupt bureaucrats, the lying liberal media, and the leftist democrat party.

    WAKE UP!

    Steve
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Dude - more of Trump's Cabinet has had to resign because of ethics violations than any other administration - and you wail about the Democrats?
    Please - roses do not grow from the asses of Republicans any more than the Dems when it comes to corruption.
     
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    . . . and the lying liberal media told you that. The so-called violations were BECAUSE of the investigation that BEGAN WHEN COMEY BROKE LAWS SENDING ILLEGAL AND FALSE INFORMATION TO THE MEDIA! Mueller refused to go after Comey so he is protecting corrupt bureaucrats and going after an OUTSIDER president.

    If you ever expect to have an independent president in office, you had better stop the democrats NOW and quit listening to the lying liberal media.

    Steve
     
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    Dude - it's always easy to spot a rant that is based on a lie - the posters start printing bigger and bigger in hopes that their puffed up tail feathers will intimidate ... but it's just a show to hide a weak argument.
     
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    Like I said above, keep brainwashing YOURSELF and you will be goose-steeping up and down the street to celebrate the democrat party control over your life.

    Steve
     
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    I'm not impressed with bumper-sticker logic, rants and people who regurgitate talking-points.
    And just because I find fault in conservative logic doesn't mean I support a liberal agenda. There are a thousand shades of grey in-between.
     
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    Popular vote is meaningless. Many dem voters in deep red states dont bother voting because their vote doesn't count and the same is true is deep blue states. We have no clue where the actual level of support was for either candidate.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also because of the internet, society is less informed or misinformed than a generation ago.

    Society don't read books any more or newspapers.

    Newspapers, well lets just say journalism is dead today and wannabe journalist are nothing more than political operatives.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In a word, Yes. The Democrat party's ability to convince low information voters to do as they wish is amazing and I give you credit for that.
    If Republicans had 1/10 the energy and organizational skills of the Democrat party, there would be only one definition for the word lefty in the dictionary.

    Dictionary result for lefty
    /ˈleftē/
    noun
    INFORMAL
    noun: leftie
    1. NORTH AMERICAN
      a left-handed person.
    2. a leftist.

    Note, I do give you credit for admitting to we deplorables, the media companies are mostly all owned by democrats which is something we conservatives have been saying for years.
     
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    If you believe that the majority of voters are ill informed, then my statement stands. (You get the government you deserve).

    Why, then doesn't the rest of the informed voting populace vote to counteract the AOC voters?

    If the AOC supporters are the majority, then you should just suffer in silence because you are in the minority.
     
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    I don't believe in Salomonic "everybody's guilty" narratives.. It's nothing but an excuse created by those who are actually responsible in order to dilute their responsibility. And this allows them to get away with it.

    Figuring out where the real responsibilities lie is much more work. But it's way more useful. If some problem predates Bush and Obama.... why didn't they fix it? Did they try, but were obstructed by the other party for political reasons? If so, then the buck stops with those who obstructed. If they made no real effort, then the responsibility for that particular problem lies with them.

    The buck always stops somewhere. And I know, in many cases, it may require an effort to find out where that is. But if you are truly concerned about what you are criticizing, you will make the effort. Otherwise, you're not just part of the problem. You are the problem.

    Saying "everybody's guilty" is the same as "nobody's guilty". To me it's just political laziness. And I find that this is far too common especially among self-proclaimed "independents"
     
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    AOC’s core supporters are only about 15% or 20% of the general population. They believe in eradicating air travel in 12 years and that all people (even those unwilling to work) should be guaranteed a minimum income. These things are crazy.

    The real danger is that an additional 30% or 35% of the population are willing to listen and consider this stuff.
     
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    Name a far right theocrat Senator, and provide evidence that he wants to transform the US into a theocracy.
    And we should do that when homosexuals and other misfits did the opposite because...?
     
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    Tell me, how do "homosexuals and other misfits" vote?
     
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    I don't know much about the universal minimum wage or eradicating air travel, but don't all ideas deserve a hearing?
    If the ideas are so crazy, the thinking people won't vote for them, will they?
    Or will they?
     
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    What made you think, a person who has been very divisive his entire life, be elected as prez and unite the country?
    He was elected because he mocked and ridiculed all of his opponents and groups of people he and they didn't like. And enough people thought that was a good trait to have for a prez.
     
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    LOL. A person who has been in office all of 6 weeks and only represents a district in her state is responsible for the 2 parties being at their throats.
    Wow, she has infected your head rather deeply.

    Meanwhile, we have the most divisive person at the prez in the history of our country. But that isn't a reason to you?
     
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    I see the growing divide as evidence that the opposite is happening. We are much more informed now than we were before, which is why we disagree with each other so vehemently.

    Think of it as me going into a sports bar during the superbowl. i know absolutely nothing about football except it's not quite as gay as rugby or soccer. I'll get a beer, find a place to sit down, and wish all those stupid jocks watching TV would quiet it down a bit. Meanwhile, those guys are busy having a good time talking about statistics and how many yards to a first down, and talking smack to the guys who support the other team.
     
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    If people were as informed as you think they are, fake Facebook posts by Russians wouldn't be the huge story that it is.
     
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    Its been well polled and documented that candidates got more votes against the other than they got for themselves.
     
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    Looking at each specific issue you are correct. I purposefully tried to stay general to highlight my belief that neither side holds any moral high ground or lesser blame than the other side.
     
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    What wakeup call were you expecting with the election of tRUMP.
    He was not an insider, that was positive. But was/is so divisive, expecting a unifying of the country was never going to happen.
    And now, he is only focused on his alt right base and not the least bit concerned with the country as a whole.
     

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